well a chat log posted to a forum is a good record also... y think? Kind of like a forum on 'roids....
or is a forum kind of like a chat-room with 'roids hehe John Hebert wrote: > on second thought, Doug has a point about discussion > in a forum being a good record. I hereby retract my > suggestion. :P > > John Hebert > > --- John Hebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>I'd like to meet on-line for an hour or two. Let's >>set >>up a time over the weekend. >> >>John Hebert >> >>--- cmb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>>Y'all wanna meet in the #brlug chat room and bandy >>>about some ideas? >>>Tonight? Tommorrow? >>> >>>Doug Riddle wrote: >>> >>>>Hello All: >>>> >>>>First, IMHO, we need to remember that the focus >>> >>>here is Open Source, >>> >>>>not strictly Linux. >>>> >>>>IMHO, we should not limit our offering to 5 CDs, >>> >>>but offer a fairly >>> >>>>wide selection. We also need not place the >>> >>entire >> >>>selection in every >>> >>>>Library. Librarians already have a system for >>> >>>ordering items from >>> >>>>other branches which they do not have at their >>> >>>branch. I was >>> >>>>thinking of a system whereby we keep a good >>> >>>offering fairly well >>> >>>>updated at the central Library, and offer a >>> >>basic >> >>>list for the branch >>> >>>>libraries. In that basic offering we could >>> >>supply >> >>>(for instance): >>> >>>>1) Cross Platform Office Suite (to aim at their >>> >>>windows weak spot) >>> >>>>2) Open Source firewalls and other widgets to >>> >>>protect PCs >>> >>>>3) A Beginner distribution like Mandrake 8.2, or >>> >>>Lindows >>> >>>>4) An intermediate distribution such as RedHat >>> >>(no >> >>>offence to the >>> >>>>Redhat-philes) >>>>5) An advanced distribution such as Debian or >>> >>>FreeBSD >>> >>>>6) A networking CD with Howtos and examples for >>> >>>SAMBA, CUPS and >>> >>>>Linneighborhood perhaps. >>>> >>>>In the Main Library offering, keep a slightly >>> >>>larger set of >>> >>>>distributions, or at least more recent >>> >>>distributions, more office >>> >>>>suites, games, Squid, and other firewalls, email >>> >>>and browsers, more >>> >>>>documentation, and a set of development tools. >>>> >>>>I really do not think we should let our own >>> >>>filters stop any >>> >>>>interested users from experimenting. I do think >>> >>>we need to make >>> >>>>clear from the outset what kind of local support >>> >>>they will find for >>> >>>>the various and sundry OS's and applications. >>>> >>>>In short, I do not think we should leave Joe >>> >>User >> >>>out of the picture, >>> >>>>but we are not likely to attract him unless he >>> >>is >> >>>actively looking to >>> >>>>abandon MS for reasons of his own. The >>> >>teenagers, >> >>>the older folks, >>> >>>>and the curious looking for help from the >>> >>library >> >>>are our customers. >>> >>>>When I first heard about Linux and Open Source, >>> >>I >> >>>went down to the >>> >>>>Library. This was way back in the 1980's. I >>> >>got >> >>>a big blank stare. >>> >>>>After rambling enough, I was directed to LSU. I >>> >>>was a student at >>> >>>>LSU. I had gone to the public library looking >>> >>for >> >>>something really >>> >>>>OPEN. VAX and VMS were not open. There was >>> >>>nothing for Intel, and I >>> >>>>gave up for a few years. I would like to remedy >>> >>>that. I think >>> >>>>Highschool kids whose parents are buying a new >>> >>PC >> >>>might have designs >>> >>>>on the old one. I think it would be perfect if >>> >>>they knew they could >>> >>>>go down to the library and check out two or >>> >>three >> >>>Operating systems, >>> >>>>complete with free software and play around. Or >>> >>>simply try some Open >>> >>>>Source software on the old tired PC. >>>> >>>>Doug Riddle >>>> >>>>--- Mnemonic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>Hash: SHA1 >>>>> >>>>>I checked out http://rute.sourceforge.net. As I >>>> >>>was looking around >>> >>>>>I started >>>>>to think about an individual with whom I work. >>>> >>He >> >>>is not willing >>> >>>>>to give >>>>>Linux a try because he says he does not want to >>>> >>>face another steep >>> >>>>>learning >>>>>curve. Considering this, I think that what has >>>> >>>been suggested is >>> >>>>>exactly >>>>>what I want, but not necessarily what everyone >>>> >>>wants. That is, >>> >>>>>most people >>>>>want to turn on their computers and have them >>>> >>>function at such a >>> >>>>>level that >>>>>operation is intuitive. I do not think they want >>>> >>>to spend an >>> >>>>>inordinate >>>>>amount of time learning how to use their >>>> >>expensive >> >>>box of metal and >>> >>>>>plastic. >>>>> >>>>>Let's say that I am Joe General Public...if my >>>> >>>computer is not >>> >>>>>broken and I >>>>>am able to do everything I need to do with it, >>>> >>why >> >>>in the world >>> >>>>>would I want >>>>>to try something like an alternate operating >>>> >>>system. What the heck >>> >>>>>is an >>>>>operating system? How do I even find out that >>>> >>>such an animal >>> >>>>>exists? >>>>>Education/awareness is paramount to the success >>>> >>of >> >>>this project. >>> >>>>>- -K >>>>> >>>>>On Friday 19 July 2002 14:15, you wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>I still think that it would be a huge >>>>> >>disservice >> >>>to the users to >>> >>>>>give >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>them a hacked, unsupported outside of BRLUG >>>>> >>>distribution of >>> >>>>>Linux. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Giving out a Debian or Red Hat or Mandrake >>>>> >>would >> >>>leave open their >>> >>>>>>options for support. CDs are cheap. Trying to >>>>> >>>shoehorn a bunch of >>> >>>>>mixed >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>software wouldn't have any benefit, unless you >>>>> >>>abandon the idea >>> >>>>>of >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>creating a custom distribution and offer an >>>>> >>>"add-on" CD of >>> >>>>>software that >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>the distribution doesn't currently have, such >>>>> >>as >> >>>OpenOffice, >>> >>>>>nVidia >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>drivers (or scripts to obtain, build, and >>>>> >>install >> >>>them if >>> > === message truncated === > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better > http://health.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > [email protected] > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >
