I'd like to meet on-line for an hour or two. Let's set
up a time over the weekend.

John Hebert

--- cmb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Y'all wanna meet in the #brlug chat room and bandy
> about some ideas? 
> Tonight?  Tommorrow?
> 
> Doug Riddle wrote:
> > Hello All:
> > 
> > First, IMHO, we need to remember that the focus
> here is Open Source,
> > not strictly Linux.
> > 
> > IMHO, we should not limit our offering to 5 CDs,
> but offer a fairly
> > wide selection.  We also need not place the entire
> selection in every
> > Library.  Librarians already have a system for
> ordering items from
> > other branches which they do not have at their
> branch.  I was
> > thinking of a system whereby we keep a good
> offering fairly well
> > updated at the central Library, and offer a basic
> list for the branch
> > libraries.  In that basic offering we could supply
> (for instance):
> > 
> > 1) Cross Platform Office Suite (to aim at their
> windows weak spot)
> > 2) Open Source firewalls and other widgets to
> protect PCs
> > 3) A Beginner distribution like Mandrake 8.2, or
> Lindows
> > 4) An intermediate distribution such as RedHat (no
> offence to the
> > Redhat-philes)
> > 5) An advanced distribution such as Debian or
> FreeBSD
> > 6) A networking CD with Howtos and examples for
> SAMBA, CUPS and
> > Linneighborhood perhaps.
> > 
> > In the Main Library offering, keep a slightly
> larger set of
> > distributions, or at least more recent
> distributions, more office
> > suites, games, Squid, and other firewalls, email
> and browsers, more
> > documentation, and a set of development tools.
> > 
> > I really do not think we should let our own
> filters stop any
> > interested users from experimenting.  I do think
> we need to make
> > clear from the outset what kind of local support
> they will find for
> > the various and sundry OS's and applications.
> > 
> > In short, I do not think we should leave Joe User
> out of the picture,
> > but we are not likely to attract him unless he is
> actively looking to
> > abandon MS for reasons of his own.  The teenagers,
> the older folks,
> > and the curious looking for help from the library
> are our customers. 
> > When I first heard about Linux and Open Source, I
> went down to the
> > Library.  This was way back in the 1980's.  I got
> a big blank stare.
> > After rambling enough, I was directed to LSU.  I
> was a student at
> > LSU.  I had gone to the public library looking for
> something really
> > OPEN.  VAX and VMS were not open.  There was
> nothing for Intel, and I
> > gave up for a few years.  I would like to remedy
> that.  I think
> > Highschool kids whose parents are buying a new PC
> might have designs
> > on the old one.  I think it would be perfect if
> they knew they could
> > go down to the library and check out two or three
> Operating systems,
> > complete with free software and play around. Or
> simply try some Open
> > Source software on the old tired PC.
> > 
> > Doug Riddle
> > 
> > --- Mnemonic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
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> >>
> >>I checked out http://rute.sourceforge.net.  As I
> was looking around
> >>I started 
> >>to think about an individual with whom I work.  He
> is not willing
> >>to give 
> >>Linux a try because he says he does not want to
> face another steep
> >>learning 
> >>curve.  Considering this, I think that what has
> been suggested is
> >>exactly 
> >>what I want, but not necessarily what everyone
> wants.  That is,
> >>most people 
> >>want to turn on their computers and have them
> function at such a
> >>level that 
> >>operation is intuitive. I do not think they want
> to spend an
> >>inordinate 
> >>amount of time learning how to use their expensive
> box of metal and
> >>plastic.
> >>
> >>Let's say that I am Joe General Public...if my
> computer is not
> >>broken and I 
> >>am able to do everything I need to do with it, why
> in the world
> >>would I want 
> >>to try something like an alternate operating
> system.  What the heck
> >>is an 
> >>operating system?  How do I even find out that
> such an animal
> >>exists?  
> >>Education/awareness is paramount to the success of
> this project.
> >>
> >>- -K
> >>
> >>On Friday 19 July 2002 14:15, you wrote:
> >>
> >>>I still think that it would be a huge disservice
> to the users to
> >>
> >>give
> >>
> >>>them a hacked, unsupported outside of BRLUG
> distribution of
> >>
> >>Linux.
> >>
> >>>Giving out a Debian or Red Hat or Mandrake would
> leave open their
> >>>options for support. CDs are cheap. Trying to
> shoehorn a bunch of
> >>
> >>mixed
> >>
> >>>software wouldn't have any benefit, unless you
> abandon the idea
> >>
> >>of
> >>
> >>>creating a custom distribution and offer an
> "add-on" CD of
> >>
> >>software that
> >>
> >>>the distribution doesn't currently have, such as
> OpenOffice,
> >>
> >>nVidia
> >>
> >>>drivers (or scripts to obtain, build, and install
> them if
> >>
> >>licensing
> >>
> >>>doesn't permit), and books in electronic format.
> >>>
> >>>One other avenue to consider would be the
> possibility to have the
> >>
> >>Rute (
> >>
> >>>http://rute.sf.net ) printed and donated to
> libraries. Having it
> >>
> >>done at
> >>
> >>>Kinkos might be prohibitively expensive, but does
> anyone have
> >>
> >>ties to
> >>
> >>>publishers or printing companies that can
> possibly get this done
> >>
> >>at a
> >>
> >>>reasonable rate?
> >>>
> >>>-Tim
> >>
> 
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