on second thought, Doug has a point about discussion
in a forum being a good record. I hereby retract my
suggestion. :P

John Hebert

--- John Hebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd like to meet on-line for an hour or two. Let's
> set
> up a time over the weekend.
> 
> John Hebert
> 
> --- cmb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Y'all wanna meet in the #brlug chat room and bandy
> > about some ideas? 
> > Tonight?  Tommorrow?
> > 
> > Doug Riddle wrote:
> > > Hello All:
> > > 
> > > First, IMHO, we need to remember that the focus
> > here is Open Source,
> > > not strictly Linux.
> > > 
> > > IMHO, we should not limit our offering to 5 CDs,
> > but offer a fairly
> > > wide selection.  We also need not place the
> entire
> > selection in every
> > > Library.  Librarians already have a system for
> > ordering items from
> > > other branches which they do not have at their
> > branch.  I was
> > > thinking of a system whereby we keep a good
> > offering fairly well
> > > updated at the central Library, and offer a
> basic
> > list for the branch
> > > libraries.  In that basic offering we could
> supply
> > (for instance):
> > > 
> > > 1) Cross Platform Office Suite (to aim at their
> > windows weak spot)
> > > 2) Open Source firewalls and other widgets to
> > protect PCs
> > > 3) A Beginner distribution like Mandrake 8.2, or
> > Lindows
> > > 4) An intermediate distribution such as RedHat
> (no
> > offence to the
> > > Redhat-philes)
> > > 5) An advanced distribution such as Debian or
> > FreeBSD
> > > 6) A networking CD with Howtos and examples for
> > SAMBA, CUPS and
> > > Linneighborhood perhaps.
> > > 
> > > In the Main Library offering, keep a slightly
> > larger set of
> > > distributions, or at least more recent
> > distributions, more office
> > > suites, games, Squid, and other firewalls, email
> > and browsers, more
> > > documentation, and a set of development tools.
> > > 
> > > I really do not think we should let our own
> > filters stop any
> > > interested users from experimenting.  I do think
> > we need to make
> > > clear from the outset what kind of local support
> > they will find for
> > > the various and sundry OS's and applications.
> > > 
> > > In short, I do not think we should leave Joe
> User
> > out of the picture,
> > > but we are not likely to attract him unless he
> is
> > actively looking to
> > > abandon MS for reasons of his own.  The
> teenagers,
> > the older folks,
> > > and the curious looking for help from the
> library
> > are our customers. 
> > > When I first heard about Linux and Open Source,
> I
> > went down to the
> > > Library.  This was way back in the 1980's.  I
> got
> > a big blank stare.
> > > After rambling enough, I was directed to LSU.  I
> > was a student at
> > > LSU.  I had gone to the public library looking
> for
> > something really
> > > OPEN.  VAX and VMS were not open.  There was
> > nothing for Intel, and I
> > > gave up for a few years.  I would like to remedy
> > that.  I think
> > > Highschool kids whose parents are buying a new
> PC
> > might have designs
> > > on the old one.  I think it would be perfect if
> > they knew they could
> > > go down to the library and check out two or
> three
> > Operating systems,
> > > complete with free software and play around. Or
> > simply try some Open
> > > Source software on the old tired PC.
> > > 
> > > Doug Riddle
> > > 
> > > --- Mnemonic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > >>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > >>Hash: SHA1
> > >>
> > >>I checked out http://rute.sourceforge.net.  As I
> > was looking around
> > >>I started 
> > >>to think about an individual with whom I work. 
> He
> > is not willing
> > >>to give 
> > >>Linux a try because he says he does not want to
> > face another steep
> > >>learning 
> > >>curve.  Considering this, I think that what has
> > been suggested is
> > >>exactly 
> > >>what I want, but not necessarily what everyone
> > wants.  That is,
> > >>most people 
> > >>want to turn on their computers and have them
> > function at such a
> > >>level that 
> > >>operation is intuitive. I do not think they want
> > to spend an
> > >>inordinate 
> > >>amount of time learning how to use their
> expensive
> > box of metal and
> > >>plastic.
> > >>
> > >>Let's say that I am Joe General Public...if my
> > computer is not
> > >>broken and I 
> > >>am able to do everything I need to do with it,
> why
> > in the world
> > >>would I want 
> > >>to try something like an alternate operating
> > system.  What the heck
> > >>is an 
> > >>operating system?  How do I even find out that
> > such an animal
> > >>exists?  
> > >>Education/awareness is paramount to the success
> of
> > this project.
> > >>
> > >>- -K
> > >>
> > >>On Friday 19 July 2002 14:15, you wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>I still think that it would be a huge
> disservice
> > to the users to
> > >>
> > >>give
> > >>
> > >>>them a hacked, unsupported outside of BRLUG
> > distribution of
> > >>
> > >>Linux.
> > >>
> > >>>Giving out a Debian or Red Hat or Mandrake
> would
> > leave open their
> > >>>options for support. CDs are cheap. Trying to
> > shoehorn a bunch of
> > >>
> > >>mixed
> > >>
> > >>>software wouldn't have any benefit, unless you
> > abandon the idea
> > >>
> > >>of
> > >>
> > >>>creating a custom distribution and offer an
> > "add-on" CD of
> > >>
> > >>software that
> > >>
> > >>>the distribution doesn't currently have, such
> as
> > OpenOffice,
> > >>
> > >>nVidia
> > >>
> > >>>drivers (or scripts to obtain, build, and
> install
> > them if
> > >>
> 
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