Abbott: I love Debian. As soon as I heard it was the "geeks" debian I had to try it. Then I found out how easy it was and wow! I loved it. I use Libranet, as everyone on the list is probably tired of hearing, but it fits my needs perfectly. Knoppix is awesome as well. However, the slogan is not mine.
The slogan, Debian for World Domination, is of course the old tongue-in-cheek joke. It is also though the name of a group on Distributed Folding's site: (http://www.distributedfolding.org/teampages/team645.html) We are currently placed 218, out of 12,163 teams. Not too shabby! If you ever do that sort of thing (distributed computing, made famous by seti) then please consider joing Debian for World Domination. If not, contribute to the greater cause by using and talking about Debian! Debian is the future for Linux. If you don't believe me, lurk on the Libranet email list for a while. I am not a zealot. I am a user. I am working on being a contributor. I may be a pusher though. Doug Riddle --- Abbott Mujica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Abbott > > Debian user since.... now > > On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 17:50, Doug Riddle wrote: > > Would this be a bad time to say "Debian for world > > domination!" > > > > ;-> > > > > Doug > > > > Debian user since 1999 > > > > > > --- Abbott Mujica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > thats exactly what i was gonna do for teachin at > the > > > DOCE @ LSU! > > > lol sorry if ive been not postin... > > > im here! > > > > > > On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 23:04, John Hebert wrote: > > > > Sue, > > > > > > > > Sorry for the delay in responding to your > > > excellent email containing your > > > > suggestions for the CCCC Linux class. Busy > > > fighting new email client... :P > > > > > > > > I've responded with comments interspersed in > your > > > original message below. > > > > > > > > On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:45:45 -0600, Sue Smith > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > At that meeting, I said I would send to the > list > > > some thoughts I had on > > > > > topics to cover, especially on finding > Windows > > > equivalents. All week at > > > > > work I've been jotting down ideas, I typed > them > > > up this evening, then > > > > > found that I'm probably taking the cake for > > > extreme wordiness. Okay, it > > > > > won't be the first prize I've gotten for > that, > > > so here goes my 5 1/2 > > > > > cents' worth: > > > > > > > > > > Suggestions for a curriculum for new Linux > > > users: > > > > > > > > > > Start with simple easy things. Show them > early > > > on that they can get into > > > > > Linux and be productive without having to be > a > > > supergeek systems admin > > > > > or programmer and without having to totally > > > abandon Windows. (They may > > > > > arrive at any or all of those later on their > > > own.) > > > > > > > > Agreed. The suggestion was made that we use > > > Knoppix > > > > (http://www.knoppix.org/en) as the Linux > distro in > > > the class. A short > > > > description of Knoppix is that it is a > bootable CD > > > that runs Linux off of > > > > your CDROM drive without having to install > > > anything on your hard drive. > > > > > > > > We can easily make copies of the Knoppix CDs > and > > > give them to class > > > > members, in return for a blank CD. The > students > > > can then take them home and > > > > try them out on their home PCs and possibly do > > > practice exercises. > > > > > > > > Knoppix would allow the students to be > immediately > > > productive, as it has > > > > Open Office, Gimp, and many other tools, > games, > > > etc. It can even auto- > > > > detect network cards and modems and make it > easy > > > to connect to the > > > > Internet. > > > > > > > > Are there any comments on this idea? Unless I > hear > > > of a good reason not to > > > > use Knoppix as part of the classroom > materials, I > > > will assume it is > > > > mutually agreed upon. > > > > > > > > > Hold off on teaching how to install and > tweak > > > the OS until an > > > > > intermediate level or on a separate track > for > > > intermediate to advanced > > > > > users. Windows users nearly always buy a new > > > computer with the OS and a > > > > > lot of apps already installed. Let's get > them > > > productive as fast as > > > > > possible, then start installing things. > > > > > > > > Again, agreed. However, I am realizing it is > > > harder to teach the seemingly > > > > simpler concepts about Linux, and easier to > teach > > > the harder ones. :) > > > > > > > > I think it would be best to start out with a > > > beginner's level class and > > > > guage the interest towards the end of the > classes > > > in a more advanced class. > > > > > > > > > I found two articles on the Internet in the > past > > > few days that give some > > > > > ideas for our classes and helping new users: > > > > > > > > > > "How do I do (insert task here) in Linux?"at > > > > > http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/dtil/ > > > > > <http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/dtil/> > . > > > This one has a new users > > > > > guide that is pretty well written. > > > > > > > > > > Experiences in helping a new Linux user, at > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT8221013471.html > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT8221013471.html> > > > . This is > > > > > rather wordy, but illustrates how someone > who > > > knows and cares zip about > > > > > any OS can work happily in Linux with a > little > > > help from a mentor. > > > > > > > > > > I found these at > http://www.linuxdailynews.com/ > > > > > <http://www.linuxdailynews.com/> . This > and > > > similar news sites would > > > > > be good to point out to students at all > levels > > > as a way of keeping > > > > > informed. > > > > > > > > Very good sites, and there are many others as > > > well. I like the idea of > > > > using existing content on the web as class > > > materials; it shows the class > > > > members that the Linux community is about > helping > > > each other and will > > > > encourage them to look for more information > and > > > answers to their questions. > > > > > > > > Another good resource to use in class is the > RUTE > > > Guide: > > > > http://rute.sf.net. Tim Fournet and I > discussed > > > the Linux class and the > > > > RUTE guide at length at Perk's recently and > > > determined that not all > > > > sections of the guide would be useful to > > > beginner's, but it still contains > > > > lots of useful material. > > > > > > > > We even came up with a rough outline for the > > > class. You can view it at: > > > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cccclinuxsig/files/sections.txt > > > > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
