Doug Riddle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Well considering knoppix is a debian offshoot.
I've done may Debian installs over the years, but knoppix had to be the easiest: 1) Boot CD 2) sudo bash 3) knx-hdinstall 4) boot off hd. 5) apt-get update, etc... > Abbott: > > I love Debian. As soon as I heard it was the "geeks" > debian I had to try it. Then I found out how easy it > was and wow! I loved it. I use Libranet, as everyone > on the list is probably tired of hearing, but it fits > my needs perfectly. Knoppix is awesome as well. > However, the slogan is not mine. > > The slogan, Debian for World Domination, is of course > the old tongue-in-cheek joke. It is also though the > name of a group on Distributed Folding's site: > (http://www.distributedfolding.org/teampages/team645.html) > We are currently placed 218, out of 12,163 teams. Not > too shabby! > > If you ever do that sort of thing (distributed > computing, made famous by seti) then please consider > joing Debian for World Domination. If not, contribute > to the greater cause by using and talking about > Debian! > > Debian is the future for Linux. > If you don't believe me, lurk on the Libranet email > list for a while. > > I am not a zealot. I am a user. I am working on > being a contributor. I may be a pusher though. > > Doug Riddle > > --- Abbott Mujica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Abbott >> >> Debian user since.... now >> >> On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 17:50, Doug Riddle wrote: >> > Would this be a bad time to say "Debian for world >> > domination!" >> > >> > ;-> >> > >> > Doug >> > >> > Debian user since 1999 >> > >> > >> > --- Abbott Mujica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > > thats exactly what i was gonna do for teachin at >> the >> > > DOCE @ LSU! >> > > lol sorry if ive been not postin... >> > > im here! >> > > >> > > On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 23:04, John Hebert wrote: >> > > > Sue, >> > > > >> > > > Sorry for the delay in responding to your >> > > excellent email containing your >> > > > suggestions for the CCCC Linux class. Busy >> > > fighting new email client... :P >> > > > >> > > > I've responded with comments interspersed in >> your >> > > original message below. >> > > > >> > > > On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:45:45 -0600, Sue Smith >> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > At that meeting, I said I would send to the >> list >> > > some thoughts I had on >> > > > > topics to cover, especially on finding >> Windows >> > > equivalents. All week at >> > > > > work I've been jotting down ideas, I typed >> them >> > > up this evening, then >> > > > > found that I'm probably taking the cake for >> > > extreme wordiness. Okay, it >> > > > > won't be the first prize I've gotten for >> that, >> > > so here goes my 5 1/2 >> > > > > cents' worth: >> > > > > >> > > > > Suggestions for a curriculum for new Linux >> > > users: >> > > > > >> > > > > Start with simple easy things. Show them >> early >> > > on that they can get into >> > > > > Linux and be productive without having to be >> a >> > > supergeek systems admin >> > > > > or programmer and without having to totally >> > > abandon Windows. (They may >> > > > > arrive at any or all of those later on their >> > > own.) >> > > > >> > > > Agreed. The suggestion was made that we use >> > > Knoppix >> > > > (http://www.knoppix.org/en) as the Linux >> distro in >> > > the class. A short >> > > > description of Knoppix is that it is a >> bootable CD >> > > that runs Linux off of >> > > > your CDROM drive without having to install >> > > anything on your hard drive. >> > > > >> > > > We can easily make copies of the Knoppix CDs >> and >> > > give them to class >> > > > members, in return for a blank CD. The >> students >> > > can then take them home and >> > > > try them out on their home PCs and possibly do >> > > practice exercises. >> > > > >> > > > Knoppix would allow the students to be >> immediately >> > > productive, as it has >> > > > Open Office, Gimp, and many other tools, >> games, >> > > etc. It can even auto- >> > > > detect network cards and modems and make it >> easy >> > > to connect to the >> > > > Internet. >> > > > >> > > > Are there any comments on this idea? Unless I >> hear >> > > of a good reason not to >> > > > use Knoppix as part of the classroom >> materials, I >> > > will assume it is >> > > > mutually agreed upon. >> > > > >> > > > > Hold off on teaching how to install and >> tweak >> > > the OS until an >> > > > > intermediate level or on a separate track >> for >> > > intermediate to advanced >> > > > > users. Windows users nearly always buy a new >> > > computer with the OS and a >> > > > > lot of apps already installed. Let's get >> them >> > > productive as fast as >> > > > > possible, then start installing things. >> > > > >> > > > Again, agreed. However, I am realizing it is >> > > harder to teach the seemingly >> > > > simpler concepts about Linux, and easier to >> teach >> > > the harder ones. :) >> > > > >> > > > I think it would be best to start out with a >> > > beginner's level class and >> > > > guage the interest towards the end of the >> classes >> > > in a more advanced class. >> > > > >> > > > > I found two articles on the Internet in the >> past >> > > few days that give some >> > > > > ideas for our classes and helping new users: >> > > > > >> > > > > "How do I do (insert task here) in Linux?"at >> > > > > http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/dtil/ >> > > > > <http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/dtil/> >> . >> > > This one has a new users >> > > > > guide that is pretty well written. >> > > > > >> > > > > Experiences in helping a new Linux user, at >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> > http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT8221013471.html >> > > > > >> > > >> > >> > <http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT8221013471.html> >> > > . This is >> > > > > rather wordy, but illustrates how someone >> who >> > > knows and cares zip about >> > > > > any OS can work happily in Linux with a >> little >> > > help from a mentor. >> > > > > >> > > > > I found these at >> http://www.linuxdailynews.com/ >> > > > > <http://www.linuxdailynews.com/> . This >> and >> > > similar news sites would >> > > > > be good to point out to students at all >> levels >> > > as a way of keeping >> > > > > informed. >> > > > >> > > > Very good sites, and there are many others as >> > > well. I like the idea of >> > > > using existing content on the web as class >> > > materials; it shows the class >> > > > members that the Linux community is about >> helping >> > > each other and will >> > > > encourage them to look for more information >> and >> > > answers to their questions. >> > > > >> > > > Another good resource to use in class is the >> RUTE >> > > Guide: >> > > > http://rute.sf.net. Tim Fournet and I >> discussed >> > > the Linux class and the >> > > > RUTE guide at length at Perk's recently and >> > > determined that not all >> > > > sections of the guide would be useful to >> > > beginner's, but it still contains >> > > > lots of useful material. >> > > > >> > > > We even came up with a rough outline for the >> > > class. You can view it at: >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cccclinuxsig/files/sections.txt >> > > > >> > === message truncated === > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > [email protected] > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net -- Scott Harney<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "...and one script to rule them all."
