I agree with you and Matt.  I think FreeBSD is
probably the server of choice.  Any Linux can be a
server, but BSD rocks.

Doug

--- Abbott Mujica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ive tried prolly most popular distros out there...
> they all have their
> fine points... just depends what im doing with a
> computer... although i
> like debian as a desktop, not a server
> 
> On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 18:46, Doug Riddle wrote:
> > Abbott:
> > 
> > I love Debian.  As soon as I heard it was the
> "geeks"
> > debian I had to try it.  Then I found out how easy
> it
> > was and wow!  I loved it.  I use Libranet, as
> everyone
> > on the list is probably tired of hearing, but it
> fits
> > my needs perfectly.  Knoppix is awesome as well. 
> > However, the slogan is not mine.  
> > 
> > The slogan, Debian for World Domination, is of
> course
> > the old tongue-in-cheek joke.  It is also though
> the
> > name of a group on Distributed Folding's site:
> >
>
(http://www.distributedfolding.org/teampages/team645.html)
> > We are currently placed 218, out of 12,163 teams. 
> Not
> > too shabby!
> > 
> > If you ever do that sort of thing (distributed
> > computing, made famous by seti) then please
> consider
> > joing Debian for World Domination.  If not,
> contribute
> > to the greater cause by using and talking about
> > Debian!
> > 
> > Debian is the future for Linux.
> > If you don't believe me, lurk on the Libranet
> email
> > list for a while.
> > 
> > I am not a zealot.  I am a user.  I am working on
> > being a contributor.  I may be a pusher though.
> > 
> > Doug Riddle
> > 
> > --- Abbott Mujica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > Abbott
> > > 
> > > Debian user since.... now
> > > 
> > > On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 17:50, Doug Riddle wrote:
> > > > Would this be a bad time to say "Debian for
> world
> > > > domination!"
> > > > 
> > > > ;->
> > > > 
> > > > Doug
> > > > 
> > > > Debian user since 1999
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- Abbott Mujica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > thats exactly what i was gonna do for
> teachin at
> > > the
> > > > > DOCE @ LSU!
> > > > > lol sorry if ive been not postin...
> > > > > im here!
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 23:04, John Hebert
> wrote:
> > > > > > Sue,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Sorry for the delay in responding to your
> > > > > excellent email containing your 
> > > > > > suggestions for the CCCC Linux class. Busy
> > > > > fighting new email client... :P
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I've responded with comments interspersed
> in
> > > your
> > > > > original message below.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:45:45 -0600, Sue
> Smith
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > At that meeting, I said I would send to
> the
> > > list
> > > > > some thoughts I had on
> > > > > > > topics to cover, especially on finding
> > > Windows
> > > > > equivalents. All week at
> > > > > > > work I've been jotting down ideas, I
> typed
> > > them
> > > > > up this evening, then
> > > > > > > found that I'm probably taking the cake
> for
> > > > > extreme wordiness. Okay, it
> > > > > > > won't be the first prize I've gotten for
> > > that,
> > > > > so here goes my 5 1/2
> > > > > > > cents' worth:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Suggestions for a curriculum for new
> Linux
> > > > > users:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Start with simple easy things. Show them
> > > early
> > > > > on that they can get into
> > > > > > > Linux and be productive without having
> to be
> > > a
> > > > > supergeek systems admin
> > > > > > > or programmer and without having to
> totally
> > > > > abandon Windows. (They may
> > > > > > > arrive at any or all of those later on
> their
> > > > > own.)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Agreed. The suggestion was made that we
> use
> > > > > Knoppix 
> > > > > > (http://www.knoppix.org/en) as the Linux
> > > distro in
> > > > > the class. A short 
> > > > > > description of Knoppix is that it is a
> > > bootable CD
> > > > > that runs Linux off of 
> > > > > > your CDROM drive without having to install
> > > > > anything on your hard drive.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > We can easily make copies of the Knoppix
> CDs
> > > and
> > > > > give them to class 
> > > > > > members, in return for a blank CD. The
> > > students
> > > > > can then take them home and 
> > > > > > try them out on their home PCs and
> possibly do
> > > > > practice exercises.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Knoppix would allow the students to be
> > > immediately
> > > > > productive, as it has 
> > > > > > Open Office, Gimp, and many other tools,
> > > games,
> > > > > etc. It can even auto- 
> > > > > > detect network cards and modems and make
> it
> > > easy
> > > > > to connect to the 
> > > > > > Internet.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Are there any comments on this idea?
> Unless I
> > > hear
> > > > > of a good reason not to 
> > > > > > use Knoppix as part of the classroom
> > > materials, I
> > > > > will assume it is 
> > > > > > mutually agreed upon.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hold off on teaching how to install and
> > > tweak
> > > > > the OS until an
> > > > > > > intermediate level or on a separate
> track
> > > for
> > > > > intermediate to advanced
> > > > > > > users. Windows users nearly always buy a
> new
> > > > > computer with the OS and a
> > > > > > > lot of apps already installed. Let's get
> > > them
> > > > > productive as fast as
> > > > > > > possible, then start installing things.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Again, agreed. However, I am realizing it
> is
> > > > > harder to teach the seemingly 
> > > > > > simpler concepts about Linux, and easier
> to
> > > teach
> > > > > the harder ones. :)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I think it would be best to start out with
> a
> > > > > beginner's level class and 
> 
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=====
Warmest Regards,

Doug Riddle
http://www.dougriddle.com
http://fossile-project.sourceforge.net/
http://www.libranet.com
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