ive tried prolly most popular distros out there... they all have their fine points... just depends what im doing with a computer... although i like debian as a desktop, not a server
On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 18:46, Doug Riddle wrote: > Abbott: > > I love Debian. As soon as I heard it was the "geeks" > debian I had to try it. Then I found out how easy it > was and wow! I loved it. I use Libranet, as everyone > on the list is probably tired of hearing, but it fits > my needs perfectly. Knoppix is awesome as well. > However, the slogan is not mine. > > The slogan, Debian for World Domination, is of course > the old tongue-in-cheek joke. It is also though the > name of a group on Distributed Folding's site: > (http://www.distributedfolding.org/teampages/team645.html) > We are currently placed 218, out of 12,163 teams. Not > too shabby! > > If you ever do that sort of thing (distributed > computing, made famous by seti) then please consider > joing Debian for World Domination. If not, contribute > to the greater cause by using and talking about > Debian! > > Debian is the future for Linux. > If you don't believe me, lurk on the Libranet email > list for a while. > > I am not a zealot. I am a user. I am working on > being a contributor. I may be a pusher though. > > Doug Riddle > > --- Abbott Mujica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Abbott > > > > Debian user since.... now > > > > On Sat, 2003-02-08 at 17:50, Doug Riddle wrote: > > > Would this be a bad time to say "Debian for world > > > domination!" > > > > > > ;-> > > > > > > Doug > > > > > > Debian user since 1999 > > > > > > > > > --- Abbott Mujica <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > thats exactly what i was gonna do for teachin at > > the > > > > DOCE @ LSU! > > > > lol sorry if ive been not postin... > > > > im here! > > > > > > > > On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 23:04, John Hebert wrote: > > > > > Sue, > > > > > > > > > > Sorry for the delay in responding to your > > > > excellent email containing your > > > > > suggestions for the CCCC Linux class. Busy > > > > fighting new email client... :P > > > > > > > > > > I've responded with comments interspersed in > > your > > > > original message below. > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 22:45:45 -0600, Sue Smith > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > At that meeting, I said I would send to the > > list > > > > some thoughts I had on > > > > > > topics to cover, especially on finding > > Windows > > > > equivalents. All week at > > > > > > work I've been jotting down ideas, I typed > > them > > > > up this evening, then > > > > > > found that I'm probably taking the cake for > > > > extreme wordiness. Okay, it > > > > > > won't be the first prize I've gotten for > > that, > > > > so here goes my 5 1/2 > > > > > > cents' worth: > > > > > > > > > > > > Suggestions for a curriculum for new Linux > > > > users: > > > > > > > > > > > > Start with simple easy things. Show them > > early > > > > on that they can get into > > > > > > Linux and be productive without having to be > > a > > > > supergeek systems admin > > > > > > or programmer and without having to totally > > > > abandon Windows. (They may > > > > > > arrive at any or all of those later on their > > > > own.) > > > > > > > > > > Agreed. The suggestion was made that we use > > > > Knoppix > > > > > (http://www.knoppix.org/en) as the Linux > > distro in > > > > the class. A short > > > > > description of Knoppix is that it is a > > bootable CD > > > > that runs Linux off of > > > > > your CDROM drive without having to install > > > > anything on your hard drive. > > > > > > > > > > We can easily make copies of the Knoppix CDs > > and > > > > give them to class > > > > > members, in return for a blank CD. The > > students > > > > can then take them home and > > > > > try them out on their home PCs and possibly do > > > > practice exercises. > > > > > > > > > > Knoppix would allow the students to be > > immediately > > > > productive, as it has > > > > > Open Office, Gimp, and many other tools, > > games, > > > > etc. It can even auto- > > > > > detect network cards and modems and make it > > easy > > > > to connect to the > > > > > Internet. > > > > > > > > > > Are there any comments on this idea? Unless I > > hear > > > > of a good reason not to > > > > > use Knoppix as part of the classroom > > materials, I > > > > will assume it is > > > > > mutually agreed upon. > > > > > > > > > > > Hold off on teaching how to install and > > tweak > > > > the OS until an > > > > > > intermediate level or on a separate track > > for > > > > intermediate to advanced > > > > > > users. Windows users nearly always buy a new > > > > computer with the OS and a > > > > > > lot of apps already installed. Let's get > > them > > > > productive as fast as > > > > > > possible, then start installing things. > > > > > > > > > > Again, agreed. However, I am realizing it is > > > > harder to teach the seemingly > > > > > simpler concepts about Linux, and easier to > > teach > > > > the harder ones. :) > > > > > > > > > > I think it would be best to start out with a > > > > beginner's level class and > > > > > guage the interest towards the end of the > > classes > > > > in a more advanced class. > > > > > > > > > > > I found two articles on the Internet in the > > past > > > > few days that give some > > > > > > ideas for our classes and helping new users: > > > > > > > > > > > > "How do I do (insert task here) in Linux?"at > > > > > > http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/dtil/ > > > > > > <http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/dtil/> > > . > > > > This one has a new users > > > > > > guide that is pretty well written. > > > > > > > > > > > > Experiences in helping a new Linux user, at > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT8221013471.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <http://www.desktoplinux.com/articles/AT8221013471.html> > > > > . This is > > > > > > rather wordy, but illustrates how someone > > who > > > > knows and cares zip about > > > > > > any OS can work happily in Linux with a > > little > > > > help from a mentor. > > > > > > > > > > > > I found these at > > http://www.linuxdailynews.com/ > > > > > > <http://www.linuxdailynews.com/> . This > > and > > > > similar news sites would > > > > > > be good to point out to students at all > > levels > > > > as a way of keeping > > > > > > informed. > > > > > > > > > > Very good sites, and there are many others as > > > > well. I like the idea of > > > > > using existing content on the web as class > > > > materials; it shows the class > > > > > members that the Linux community is about > > helping > > > > each other and will > > > > > encourage them to look for more information > > and > > > > answers to their questions. > > > > > > > > > > Another good resource to use in class is the > > RUTE > > > > Guide: > > > > > http://rute.sf.net. Tim Fournet and I > > discussed > > > > the Linux class and the > > > > > RUTE guide at length at Perk's recently and > > > > determined that not all > > > > > sections of the guide would be useful to > > > > beginner's, but it still contains > > > > > lots of useful material. > > > > > > > > > > We even came up with a rough outline for the > > > > class. You can view it at: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cccclinuxsig/files/sections.txt > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > General mailing list > [email protected] > http://oxygen.nocdirect.com/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net >
