On Sun, 25 May 2003 10:29:52 -0500, John Hebert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

> On Sat, 24 May 2003 21:03:01 -0500, will hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>
>> On 2003.05.24 07:50 John Hebert wrote:
>>> Agreed. My perception was that the scene was meant to remind us how we 
>>> are different from machines, as the sex scene was juxtaposed with the 
>>> big rave dance scenes in slow motion. Machines (AI) don't|can't 
>>> experience ecstasy.
>>
>> I don't think he really left the Matrix.  That's why he was able to 
>> "feel" the squids.  Zion looks more like this to me:
>>
>> http://rubens.anu.edu.au/student.projects/rodin/essay.html
>>
>> Every link is broken, but there are images and essays in the directory 
>> that you can read.  Oh, I also hope that the author's friends don't look 
>> like the people in Rodin's hell.
>>
>> If machines become intelligent, they must feel.  Without emotion there 
>> is no reason to make a choice and a machine that can't make choices is 
>> not intelligent.
>
> Why is reason sufficient for intelligence? You open up some pretty large 
> vistas for discussion here, and I definitely want to discuss them fully, 
> but let's start small: GnuChess regularly kicks my ass by making choices, 
> without "feeling" I assume, about how to move chess pieces. Please 
> explain how this works based on your observation in the above paragraph.

Ok, the above should state:

"Why are emotions necessary for intelligence?"

Too early, no coffee yet. :P

John Hebert

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John Hebert
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