--- -ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2004, John Hebert wrote:
> > You are just thinking about physical security, not
> > legal security. HavenCo is the only datacenter
> located
> > in a sovereign nation that has no legal
> requirement to
> > submit to another nation's subpoena.
>
> No nation has a legal requirement to submit to
> another nation's subpoena.
Ah, you are correct. I was thinking instead of
national agreements between nations to let each other
perform legal actions; i.e., the FBI requesting
Indymedia's webservers in Italy, etc.
> What would Iran or N Korea do with a US subpoena?
> Probably save it in
> case they ran out of toilet paper, haha...
True.
> I have heard this before about Sealand. IANAL, but
> the counter is that a
> subpoena is issued to a person or entity. You don't
> subpoena the
> evidence, you subpoena a person to produce the
> evidence. If you don't
> comply, you goto jail. So if you want to keep your
> data safe and not goto
> jail, you probably want to be a citizen of Sealand,
> and also incorporate
> your business in Sealand, and possibly never leave
> Sealand.
Hmmm. I can see that strong encryption is a better
method to hide your data. Then the problem becomes how
do you hide your identity when performing the monetary
transactions to pay for remote services? In other
words, how do you hide the money trail?
> And if Ashcroft wanted it, he'd go in and get it.
> It'd be a 5 minute job
> for a special forces team. Not that it's right, but
> i wouldn't say it's
> never happened before and won't happen again. He'd
> have problems breaking
> the encryption though....
Good point.
John
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