David,

IMO Freevo isn't worth anyone's time.  It uses external programs to watch
live and recorded shows (default: tvtime/mplayer) and doesn't work well with
any kind of automated listing service.  It still uses xmltv as opposed to
the far superior Zap2IT download service. MythTV is the future and is well
integrated, but crashes frequently and is a CPU hog.

As to your second point...

Unfortunately, I am just a GNU/Linux user.  I hardly have time to compile my
own kernels or configure iptables (the way it needs to be done), much less
get into developing and hacking operating system and productivity software;
and I am a power user/hacker!  How can we expect Joseph Q. Average to put up
with doing those types of things in order to get usable software?  I agree
that free software (as in speech) is the best ideal for everyone, but by the
definition of its development model, can't have the best features and the
most stability because the people who write it are doing it in their spare
time.  I know that others here think differently about the current state of
GNU/Linux, but it just isn't ready for prime time; and asking users to start
hacking, fixing bugs, and submitting feature requests is not the answer
unless you are going to pay them.


Andrew Baudouin
Applications Programmer
AWC, Incorporated
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(225) 752-3939 x228

-----Original Message-----
From: David Jackson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 1:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Supporting Linux vs. Linux Zealotry


    Or Freevo, which works with the satellite reception cards, and runs 
on Linux.

    I guess what I have been hinting at is that sometimes you have to 
sacrifice your time for the greater good; get on the mailing lists, do 
bug reporting, use the software.  Hack it, and make patches (if you 
can).  Find solutions.  Make suggestions, and request features that you 
specifically want.  Then MythTV (or any Linux package) will get better, 
and become a package more suited for your needs.

    Linux isn't ready only because we turn to Windows when the Linux 
solutions fail, rather than rallying behind developers and supporting 
them towards making the Linux solution work.  And if we keep doing that, 
then Linux will never be ready.  What motivation does a developer have, 
if his product lays in obscurity?

David

Baudouin, Andrew wrote:

>David,
>
>I attempted to make an argument similar to this after the "Firefox"
security
>article; about how Linux simply isn't ready in many ways.  It wasn't well
>received but that may be due to the fact that I am relatively new to the
>group.
>
>I would agree with Terry that Linux PVR solutions are not ready for Joe
>Average to use, and that is based on many factors.  Not the least of which
>is the fact that the most stable of the solutions, MythTV, is currently
only
>on version 0.16....
>
>Personally, I wouldn't even give a PC/Windows based PVR solution to Joe
>Average.  The answer for them is TIVO!
> 
>Andrew Baudouin
>Applications Programmer
>AWC, Incorporated
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  
>


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