Strange, but true - I never got the message that John is responding to here, and which is a response to something I wrote.
I am going to have to sort this out. I am fairly certain that this might have been happening for a while, but now it's becoming annoying. David Jackson John Hebert wrote: >--- "Baudouin, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >wrote: > > >>I think mindsets like RMS's and yours are terribly >>wrong. It's nice to have >>a free software ideal, and believe that software >>should be free, but until >>the cost of living for programmers becomes $0 it >>just isn't realistic. >> >> > >That's why it's called an ideal. Personally, I don't >know any GPL programmers that carry signs that say: >"WILL CODE FOR FOOD". Most get along just fine, and >aren't wacknut crazy anarchists. > >Hmm. I thought you understood how free and open-source >software gets developed and shared, but now I realize >I was mistaken. > >Read Matthew 14:20 again, but now imagine that the >loaves and fishes aren't appearing by magic. > > > >>You >>guys are simply blind to the fact that most >>meaningful contributions to >>Linux are made on the paid dollar and if it were for >>hobbyists we'd still be >>at exactly where the GNU Mach/Hurd kernels are right >>now, 0% market share. >> >> > >Proof goes much farther than assumptions. Please >_think_ about and then explain why IBM, et.al., are >contributing to the Linux kernel. BTW, this means they >are "giving away" programming, hence labor and $, >since the kernel is GPL. Why? Is it some plot to >undermine Microsoft? Are they simply goofy in the >head? > >Last I checked, IBM was still driven by capitalist >principles, and quite profitable, yet they have no >problem with the free software "ideal". > >Maybe they know something you don't? > > > >>(Put that in your pipe and smoke it). >> >> > >My, my. Are we forgetting our manners? > > > >>I would go >>further and say that until >>there are standards, 1 standard distribution of >>GNU/Linux (free or not free, >> >> > >It is interesting that you call for a single >distribution and then use the word "free" in the same >sentence. Think about that. Hint: "free" means >freedom, not "free" as in beer. > > > >>it doesn't matter to the users) then it will not >>have the success it is >>looking for. >> >> > >Please, explain to us, what success "it" is looking >for. > >To use an analogy: Was the soup in the story "Stone >Soup" (http://www.stonesoup.com/main2/StoneSoup.html) >looking to be eaten? Were the people contributing to >the soup insisting that everyone eat it? > >Do you think it is possible that you might >misunderstand what free and open source software is >about? > > > >>When a user gets introduced to Linux he >>sees 1000000 >>distributions and it's like "Where do I go from >>here" >> >> > >So what if some less curious computer users stick with >Windows? Bill G. has gotta eat too. The world will not >end. > > > >>Please forgive me for falling in love with my high >>school sweetheart, >>marrying her, and having the ability to raise a >>beautiful son in close >>proximity to his grandparents and having a loving >>center of support all >>around us. Forgive me for not having useless ideals >>that cause me to hop >>around $8/hr LAMP jobs. Forgive me for taking a >>great paying Microsoft >>development job that allowed me to buy a nice house >>in Shenandoah Estates at >>the age of 23. >> >> > >Ai-yi-yi. I think you need to back away from the >keyboard, slowly. You are having an ethical crisis >over FREE SOFTWARE, for goodness sake. I use both free >and non-free software for both work and play, yet I >experience no moral dilemma over it. > >Maybe you should put your money where your mouth is: >Promise to _never_ take a job working with free and >open source technology, since it is so "wrong". Bill >G. will _love_ you for it. Heck, you could even tattoo >"Microserf" on your forehead. > > > >>"blah ... Carmack ... blah" >> >> > >*gains points for mentioning Carmack* > > > >>It's all about the Benjamins baby! >> >> > >*loses points for using an overworn cliche* > >So one case is all you need for proof? I'll see your >Carmack and raise you a Berners-Lee. > > > >>I don't delude myself into thinking my mom >>should switch over to >>it because "software deserves to be free" or some >>such BS. >> >> > >You are free to say such things, while others are free >to "waste their time" giving away source code. Will >you deny them their freedom? > >I will use my freedom to say this: you are not winning >admirers or friends here by the "logical elegance" of >your arguments. What I get mostly from your emails is >that you are convinced that you are right, and that >others with differing opinions are simply wrong, with >ideals that are "BS". > >How old are you, Andrew? I assume you are young, for >obvious reasons. > >Let me tell you something that I have learned: > >The world is bigger than you think right now. > >John > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. >http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > >_______________________________________________ >General mailing list >[email protected] >http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net > > >
