Andrew,

IIRC, there were at most a couple of responses that "shat" upon your post.
Hardly a consensus. Sounds to me like you are generalizing the attitude of
the entire BRLUG membership based on a couple of zealots. I personally get
angry at being lumped in with the Linux zealots, being a reformed zealot
myself.

And if you hadn't noticed, I'm on a crusade to ridicule the zealots on this
list when I get the chance to do so.

John

On 9/21/05, Andrew Baudouin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've personally had phenomenal success mounting disks in Linux and
> reading any NTFS data on-platter assuming the partitions and heads are
> still intact. I made a post to the LUG about this some time ago and was
> unsurprisingly shat upon. Do you suspect head failure or platter
> failure? If so, get a quote (see below) from a data recovery shop and
> present that to your client. Let him make the decision.
>
> Ontrack Data Recovery (ontrack.com <http://ontrack.com>) is the most
> reputable shop out there
> IMO.
>
> Andrew
>
> Dustin Puryear wrote:
>
> > I have a new client from New Orleans that, lo and behold, found out
> > his IT
> > guy wasn't backing up his nightly SQL Server dumps. Well, they
> > retrieved the
> > server yesterday with an IDE drive.
> >
> > The question is: Can we get the guy's data back?
> >
> > He asked me to first try to spin it up. I was worried about that, but
> I'd
> > heard of some success stories from other consultants helping NOLA
> > clients.
> > So we plugged the drive into a new PC and started the system. The
> > drive spun
> > up but we got a disk error before any OS boot. After that I powered
> > down the
> > system.
> >
> > At this point I'm thinking we would need a hard-disk recovery expert.
> > I know
> > there are some, but I'm not familiar with this. Who should we use? How
> > much
> > will this cost?
> >
> > Any information is appreciated!
> >
> > ---
> > Puryear Information Technology, LLC
> > Baton Rouge, LA * 225-706-8414
> > http://www.puryear-it.com
> >
> > Author of "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers"
> > Download your free copy:
> > http://www.puryear-it.com/bestpractices.htm
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Hebert)
Date: Wed Sep 21 13:14:24 2005
Subject: [brlug-general] Hard disk recovery
In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Dustin,

As others have suggested, a professional outfit like OnTrack is your safest
bet. However, have you considered putting the platter in a duplicate model
drive's housing? I've read that this is basically what any data recovery
shop does.

Also, was the drive submerged? What condition is it in now? Rust/corrosion
over time is your biggest risk.

John

On 9/21/05, Dustin Puryear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I have a new client from New Orleans that, lo and behold, found out his IT
> guy wasn't backing up his nightly SQL Server dumps. Well, they retrieved
> the
> server yesterday with an IDE drive.
>
> The question is: Can we get the guy's data back?
>
> He asked me to first try to spin it up. I was worried about that, but I'd
> heard of some success stories from other consultants helping NOLA clients.
> So we plugged the drive into a new PC and started the system. The drive
> spun
> up but we got a disk error before any OS boot. After that I powered down
> the
> system.
>
> At this point I'm thinking we would need a hard-disk recovery expert. I
> know
> there are some, but I'm not familiar with this. Who should we use? How
> much
> will this cost?
>
> Any information is appreciated!
>
> ---
> Puryear Information Technology, LLC
> Baton Rouge, LA * 225-706-8414
> http://www.puryear-it.com
>
> Author of "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers"
> Download your free copy:
> http://www.puryear-it.com/bestpractices.htm
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> [email protected]
> http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andrew Baudouin)
Date: Wed Sep 21 13:17:46 2005
Subject: [brlug-general] Hard disk recovery
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        <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I understand fully, but I think Will took you quite seriously. 

I am not a Windows zealot by any stretch of the imagination, but I will 
take offense at being the target of those who are on the opposite end of 
the spectrum.  I didn't think I intimated that the whole group responded 
negatively to my earlier thread, but the usual suspects sure did.  You 
remember what went on at that meeting at that Mexican place on T.Bend...

I happen to know that you work in a Windows shop (Aegis? ) so I do not 
consider you a Linux zealot.


Andrew



John Hebert wrote:

> Andrew,
>
> IIRC, there were at most a couple of responses that "shat" upon your 
> post. Hardly a consensus. Sounds to me like you are generalizing the 
> attitude of the entire BRLUG membership based on a couple of zealots. 
> I personally get angry at being lumped in with the Linux zealots, 
> being a reformed zealot myself.
>
> And if you hadn't noticed, I'm on a crusade to ridicule the zealots on 
> this list when I get the chance to do so.
>
> John
>
> On 9/21/05, *Andrew Baudouin* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
>
>     I've personally had phenomenal success mounting disks in Linux  and
>     reading any NTFS data on-platter assuming the partitions and heads are
>     still intact.  I made a post to the LUG about this some time ago
>     and was
>     unsurprisingly shat upon.  Do you suspect head failure or platter
>     failure?  If so,  get a quote (see below) from a data recovery
>     shop and
>     present that to your client.  Let him make the decision.
>
>     Ontrack Data Recovery ( ontrack.com <http://ontrack.com>) is the
>     most reputable shop out there
>     IMO.
>
>     Andrew
>
>     Dustin Puryear wrote:
>
>     > I have a new client from New Orleans that, lo and behold, found out
>     > his IT
>     > guy wasn't backing up his nightly SQL Server dumps. Well, they
>     > retrieved the
>     > server yesterday with an IDE drive.
>     >
>     > The question is: Can we get the guy's data back?
>     >
>     > He asked me to first try to spin it up. I was worried about
>     that, but I'd
>     > heard of some success stories from other consultants helping NOLA
>     > clients.
>     > So we plugged the drive into a new PC and started the system. The
>     > drive spun
>     > up but we got a disk error before any OS boot. After that I powered
>     > down the
>     > system.
>     >
>     > At this point I'm thinking we would need a hard-disk recovery
>     expert.
>     > I know
>     > there are some, but I'm not familiar with this. Who should we
>     use? How
>     > much
>     > will this cost?
>     >
>     > Any information is appreciated!
>     >
>     > ---
>     > Puryear Information Technology, LLC
>     > Baton Rouge, LA * 225-706-8414
>     > http://www.puryear-it.com <http://www.puryear-it.com>
>     >
>     > Author of "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers"
>     > Download your free copy:
>     > http://www.puryear-it.com/bestpractices.htm
>     <http://www.puryear-it.com/bestpractices.htm>
>     >
>     >
>     > _______________________________________________
>     > General mailing list
>     > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>     > http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
>     >
>
>
>
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Tortorich)
Date: Wed Sep 21 13:37:42 2005
Subject: [brlug-general] Hard disk recovery
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

That was a typo. What andrew meant to say was:

 

"I take offense at being the target of those who are on the opposite end
of my rectum"

 

Certainly understandable. 

 

________________________________

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Andrew Baudouin
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:18 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [brlug-general] Hard disk recovery

 

I understand fully, but I think Will took you quite seriously.  

I am not a Windows zealot by any stretch of the imagination, but I will
take offense at being the target of those who are on the opposite end of
the spectrum.  I didn't think I intimated that the whole group responded
negatively to my earlier thread, but the usual suspects sure did.  You
remember what went on at that meeting at that Mexican place on T.Bend...

I happen to know that you work in a Windows shop (Aegis? ) so I do not
consider you a Linux zealot.


Andrew



John Hebert wrote: 

Andrew,

IIRC, there were at most a couple of responses that "shat" upon your
post. Hardly a consensus. Sounds to me like you are generalizing the
attitude of the entire BRLUG membership based on a couple of zealots. I
personally get angry at being lumped in with the Linux zealots, being a
reformed zealot myself.

And if you hadn't noticed, I'm on a crusade to ridicule the zealots on
this list when I get the chance to do so.

John

On 9/21/05, Andrew Baudouin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

I've personally had phenomenal success mounting disks in Linux  and
reading any NTFS data on-platter assuming the partitions and heads are
still intact.  I made a post to the LUG about this some time ago and was
unsurprisingly shat upon.  Do you suspect head failure or platter
failure?  If so,  get a quote (see below) from a data recovery shop and
present that to your client.  Let him make the decision.

Ontrack Data Recovery ( ontrack.com) is the most reputable shop out
there
IMO.

Andrew

Dustin Puryear wrote:

> I have a new client from New Orleans that, lo and behold, found out
> his IT 
> guy wasn't backing up his nightly SQL Server dumps. Well, they
> retrieved the
> server yesterday with an IDE drive.
>
> The question is: Can we get the guy's data back?
>
> He asked me to first try to spin it up. I was worried about that, but
I'd 
> heard of some success stories from other consultants helping NOLA
> clients.
> So we plugged the drive into a new PC and started the system. The
> drive spun
> up but we got a disk error before any OS boot. After that I powered 
> down the
> system.
>
> At this point I'm thinking we would need a hard-disk recovery expert.
> I know
> there are some, but I'm not familiar with this. Who should we use? How
> much 
> will this cost?
>
> Any information is appreciated!
>
> ---
> Puryear Information Technology, LLC
> Baton Rouge, LA * 225-706-8414
> http://www.puryear-it.com 
>
> Author of "Best Practices for Managing Linux and UNIX Servers"
> Download your free copy:
> http://www.puryear-it.com/bestpractices.htm 
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> General mailing list
> [email protected]
> http://brlug.net/mailman/listinfo/general_brlug.net
>



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From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Wed Sep 21 14:11:24 2005
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (-k.)
Date: Wed Sep 21 14:11:04 2005
Subject: [brlug-general] Hard disk recovery
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--- Christian Tortorich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> "I take offense at being the target of those who are on the opposite end
> of my rectum"

Hate to steer the conversation away from rectums, really i do...

Has anyone ever used one of the aforementioned data recovery services? If so 
what where the
results? How much did it cost you? I've heard a lot of talk about them but 
never actually been in
contact with anyone who has actually used one. Just curious.



-k.


                
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