For what it's worth, people will often express concepts using abstractions which make sense to them but not to others.
For example, I remember when I was in high school -- I liked physics, calculus and trigonometry, but disliked geometry. This was largely due to the treatments I had been exposed to, and not really a reflection of the subjects themselves. Still, it influenced my choices and my education. Anyways... generally speaking, if we want to appeal to people who have a dislike for some abstraction, that means we need to set out to appeal to what they like, and maybe occasionally help them through the obstacles which bother them. -- Raul ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
