Thomas wrote: > Leo Simons wrote: > > >>On 18-07-2005 15:33, "Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> >>>If I don't get around this cocoon problems I have I'll start a new >>>presentation application (not dyngump) with J2EE and Struts. >>> >>> >> >>I'll chuck in 2 cents: I don't want "J2EE". Servlets+Struts+other stuff like >>velocity is potentially nice, but please no EJB or JNDI or any of the other >>J2EE stack. Most of it is crap :-) >> >> >> > > If i go with struts it will be very simple Servelts+struts thats about > it I hope to be able not use any other framwork for the database > comunication but if I get a lot of protest there from you or other that > works with Gump, I'll use a framwork for that to (Hybernate). > > >>>like to hear what you have to say, if I missunderstud something with >>>cocoon or if I'm just giving up to easy. But I want to get som results >>>now and I feel that cocoon is one step to big to take at the moment to >>>get where I whant. >>> >>> >> >>Ok. I'd appreciate if you could go into some more detail (and a little more >>concretely) on what you tried to do with dynagump that you were unable to >>get to, what you tried to get there, and how you figured out what to try, >>etc. That'll be very useful feedback to the cocoon people, and it means you >>won't have "wasted" your time :-) >> >> > > The thing that I got stuck on with cocoon is when it gets abit more > complicated, create generators and more custome stuff. I have no > problems when it comes to communicating with the database take out rows, > update, add, the basic stuff. The problems comes when I want to do > something with the data that I get. > No problems on presenting the data writing xslt's and generating pages > from xml files. That part I think works porfectly and is the reason why > I whan't to lear more about cocoon. But when you whant to costumize the > webapp abit more like generators I'm lost. The level of knoledge you > need to proceed with that is huge and the tutorials often miss parts > like filenames of files that are created and wich files he is working on > (editing). Small things that is so important when you are new to things > like a compleat framework. > Something concrete is for example you get a value from the database and > you whant to multiply it with another value that you also get from the db. > > To me it sounds like I have missed something essential. > > If I have missed somthing that makes me go Haha I might go with cocoon > but as it is now cocoon is taking to much time to learn for me to make > some progres before the summer of code is over.
Good points and I don't have the energy/time to fill that teaching gap, I'm afraid. I don't mind if you go Struts+Hibernate, but at least, keep the html templates that of the current dynagump. -- Stefano. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]