> voting on the proposed graduation PMC on the dev list appears to have
been skipped. This is a process concern, not just a transparency one.

This is incorrect. It is discussed in [1] and voted in [2] on dev@.

[1] https://lists.apache.org/thread/9z36p0fg5vv7hh4dcr5yqc5f6krjry3x
[2] https://lists.apache.org/thread/pf606zthz0xztl8cjzow50dx77c0217f

Best,
tison.


Justin Mclean <[email protected]> 于2026年5月26日周二 22:33写道:

> Hi Jark,
>
> Thank you for the response, and I appreciate that you replied directly
> this time.
>
> However, I have some follow-up points:
>
> First, "merit never expires" is a principle about not removing existing
> PMC members, not a justification for including people in an initial
> graduation PMC based on pre-donation historical contributions. The two
> situations are different.
>
> Second, if the bar for PPMC membership is set high, I would ask the PPMC
> to explain how members with very limited visible activity during the
> incubation period met that bar. Asserting that people are "actively engaged
> behind the scenes" is not something the IPMC can verify, and is not a
> satisfactory answer to a governance question.
>
> Third, you reference the private mailing list as the basis for the PMC
> selection criteria. I have read that thread. There was no substantive
> discussion of the criteria, and the step of publicly discussing and voting
> on the proposed graduation PMC on the dev list appears to have been
> skipped. This is a process concern, not just a transparency one.
>
> Fourth, you state that the PPMC does not nominate individuals based on
> seniority or title. I would encourage you to look again at your proposed
> PMC list carefully. I have data and names that contradict that claim, and I
> would be happy to provide them. Making that assertion publicly when the
> evidence does not support it does you a disservice as the proposed chair.
>
> Finally, the project has added only one new PPMC member during incubation.
> I do not think that is sufficient evidence that governance has genuinely
> broadened, and I remain concerned that the proposed PMC largely reflects
> the pre-donation founding team.
>
> I will take these concerns into account when forming my view of graduation
> readiness.
>
> Kind Regards,
> Justin
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