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Peter Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 09:53, Alex Fern�ndez wrote:
> > > It truly is a convenience. If a user is buying a PC with JRE
> > > preinstalled, they will use it--or explore using programs that use it.
> > > It opens up a lot of potential clients for our OSS projects. Let's face
> > > it, we chose to build a lot of projects on a proprietary "standard".
> >
> > That's right. And that's why we should be pushing to make Java a true
> > standard. In fact, Sun should be pushing this way too, if they would
> > just realize that only open standards have ever been successful against
> > monopolistic practices.
>
> Sure they have - ever heard of a little OS called Windows .. apparently it has
> a fair bit of marketshare.
I am sorry. I consider Windows to be a total failure. Most people say they
hate their computers but they really hate Windows. I don't have to explain the
instability, security or other flaws which are present in Windows.
Windows hasn't been successful. Microsoft's marketing and monopoly engine has
been successful. They could have thrown *anything* down our throats :)
> > A standard body issues the standard, then companies choose to comply or
> > not. IBM maintains their own JDK, and it doesn't cost Sun anything.
>
> umm ... they have a few JVMs but theres a significant proportion that is Sun
> owned/licensed.
Most of the stuff that IBM provides is at the C level... I would bet that 90% of
this code comes from SUN.
<snip>
> > and the FSF is developing a free JVM clone.
>
> Initially there was about 7 JVMs. Currently there is only 3 remaining (kaffe,
> japhar and gcj). All of them are incompatible, more resource intensive and
> slower than any vaguely modern JVM.
Do you have evidence to back up your claim that GCJ is "more resource
intensive". I am not challenging you but I just want to see more docs on GCJs
performance.
> Most are about 3 years behind. Nothing even in the same vacinity as IBMs JVM.
Still a proprietary JVM. I am just happy that we at least have alternatives
with GCC 3.0.
<snip>
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