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Berin Loritsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> "Kevin A. Burton" wrote:
> > 
> > > What I would like to see is something *better* than the JCP.  I believe in
> > > open research.  OSS fits a great many needs, but there are some key points in
> > > Free Software (GPL/LGPL) that I don't necessarily agree with.
> > 
> > I don't think that *anyone* should have problems with Free Software itself.
> > Apache is Free Software.  I think you probably mean copyleft.  Copyleft is a
> > controversial concept and I think it is still a number of years until it is
> > really appreciated.
> 
> When I spoke of Free Software, I spoke with the definitions that Richard
> Stallman uses--which excludes Apache.  Apache is OSS compliant though.

Send Stallman an e-mail right now.. [EMAIL PROTECTED]  He will tell you that Apache
*is* Free Software.

It is important that we don't forget this! :)

> As to Copyleft appreciation, I used to be a proponent of that approach.  The
> benefit of Copyleft is obvious to many people, however it's license is not
> written in an easily understood manner.  This leads to potential violations
> whether intentionally or not.  The simplicity of the Apache Software License
> or the X Server License makes using them easier.  I am more confident with
> those licenses because I can usually incorporate any code I want and all will
> be well.

There are paracitistic violations that the copyleft prevents.  If you are not
afraid of this (which I assume many OSS fans are not) then BSD/MIT licenses are
fine.  I personally straddle the fence.

> My conclusion of the whole licensing issue is this: for the desktop or user level
> software use the GPL, but for server side stuff where you need to provide dynamic
> elements that are corporate specific use an ASL style license.

I think that is over simplyfing.  There is a lot of server level software that
is GPL.  

> There are fewer issues to deal with when you use this type of approach.  I am
> pretty pragmatic, and I use what works for me.  Most of the time OSS works for
> me due to budget constraints (I would rather spend $2000 to fix a broken
> transmission than buy a new IDE).

:)

Kevin

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Kevin A. Burton ( [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] )
        Cell: 408-910-6145 URL: http://relativity.yi.org ICQ: 73488596 

My first job was programming binary load lifters, very similar to your 
Evaporators in many respects.
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