From: "Geir Magnusson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On 10/31/01 6:45 PM, "James Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jon Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> on 10/31/01 1:54 PM, "James Strachan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >>
> >>> It would be interesting to have a Java competition - trying the
various
> >>> different techniques, tools and frameworks and seeing how each of them
> > stack
> >>> up to .NET. Comparing code complexity, performance etc.
> >>>
> >>> e.g. with beans or EJBs, with JDBC stored procedures or Turbine, with
> > JSP or
> >>> Velocity, then on a bunch of runtime platforms and databases and see
how
> >>> they stack up doing the same application.
> >>>
> >>> James
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, none of us in Jakarta land get paid to write demo's so I
> >> doubt you will see one soon. :-(
> >
> > I know! I was thinking about it another way.
> >
> > Most frameworks end up making a sample web application to demonstrate
them
> > in action. So Velocity, Struts, XMLC, EJBDoclet, JSP tags and so on
could
> > just pick the PetStore as a demo to build in the future (or at least a
part
> > of it).
>
>
> I've been thinking of converting PetStore to Velocity, as we have had
> questions on the Velocity list asking about just that.
>
> It would give a real apples to apples comparison.
>
> As jon notes, it's going to be a bit of work, although we could try to
> recycle the lutris simple beans...
>
> Now, if I could just avoid sleep...

;-)

Thinking a bit more about it, using Turbine/Torque or Castor or EJBDoclet or
JDO or whatever it should be a pretty quick job to make the 'simple beans'.

Then sharing the same set of simple beans we could experiment with plugging
in the various display/templating/framework technologies, Turbine, Velocity,
JSP/tags, struts, XMLC, Cocoon/XSLT etc.

James



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