They have:

http://java.sun.com/j2ee/blueprints/learn.html

Justy

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From: "Matt Egyhazy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] MS makes a better PetShop...


> perhaps sun should make it more clear that petshop is not a benchmark and
is
> instead a multi-faceted example of the possibilities offered by j2ee.  i
> suppose they could rework it and create a benchmark out of it...
>
> microsoft is obviously misusing it...and that is possibly what they do
best
> (and are 'doing right'), spread FUD.
>
> matt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2001 2:52 AM
> Subject: Re: [OT] MS makes a better PetShop...
>
>
> > on 10/31/01 5:41 PM, "horwat" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > The J2EE PetStore application was created as an educational tool to
> showcase
> > > features available in a J2EE architecture. True, it has many more
EJB's
> then
> > > required in a normal application but these EJB's are meant to be
> examples of
> > > how the technology can be used. PetStore shows by example various
design
> > > patterns and is not meant to be a benchmarked application.
> > >
> > > Microsoft is really missing the point in their benchmark. In their
port
> they
> > > don't have a middle tier. They are really missing the meat of the
> > > architecture and essentially have a database accessible through
> webpages. It
> > > is this middle tier, through the use of EJBs, that allows pluggability
> and
> > > reusability of business logic.
> > >
> > > It is quite telling that Microsoft targeted a strawman, non-optimized,
> > > education focused application instead of an official J2EE benchmark
like
> > > ECPerf.
> > >
> > > Justy
> >
> > Why can't anyone learn that providing crummy examples only encourages
> people
> > to create crummy applications? Most of the people out there probably try
> to
> > copy/paste as much code as they can from samples like the PetStore.
People
> > who are even looking at it in the first place are looking at it as the
> 'Sun
> > approved' way of creating applications.
> >
> > If you are really trying to educate people how to use various design
> > patterns, then why not show them the right way in the first place?
> >
> > Am I the only one who sees the hypocrisy in all of this?
> >
> > p.s. Sun's stock price is flying at a whopping 10.84. M$ must be doing
> > something right (at 61.84).
> >
> > -jon
> >
> >
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