Hi,

Java proves to be a reliable technology but some political questions are
still
open and some others  - not all - are getting answered in the wrong
direction.

There could be a chance to discuss these things during the JavaOne next
month.
Perhaps at Jon`s new place which is not too far away from the Moscone
center?


gruesse

Juergen Fey

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Sorry for the X-post.

I just created a new mailing list:

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You can sign up here:

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...

Are you upset at the way Java is being handled by SUN?

Do you feel lied to about the fact that SUN is still keeping Java
proprietary
even after they promised us for *years* that it would be standardized?

Are you looking towards .NET/C# as an alternative but still optimistic about
Java?

Do you *hate* the JCP?

Are you sick of the fact that SUN keeps throwing new features into the VM
and
bloating it beyond belief?

Do you want SUN to Open Source Java?

Do you want to collaborate around other Open Source Java implementations?

...

I created the java-is-dead mailing list to address these issues.

Note that this mailing list is a place to help fix things.  The java-is-dead
mailing list is for people who love Java but are *very* concerned.

Please feel free to forward this email or link to the mailing list from your
site.

Kevin

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