Hi:
I wasn't trying to be political at all. I've just been frustrated by my experiences with Weblogic, but I still use it: I generally off load image type conversion and PDF generation to the appserver. Please don't take the argument so personally. I'm not an egomaniac and I wasn't trying to insult you personally in any way. So, I'm driven to a bit of exaggeration and overstatement at times especially when criticizing over-hyped technology like EJB. I've got lots of problems with XML and JSP too, if anyone else wants to fight :) Cheers, Aaron > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2002 1:07 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: EJB = bad = MS.net > > > So by your response I take it you don't know how I can submit a project to > jakarta? > > Did you even read the whole post? Keep the politics off the discussion > boards. Especially comments as such; > > "Not arguing with you here. (These discussion just provoke stupid > comments like that.)". I guess good grammar is not indicative of > intelligence. Besides, I was using sarcasm to make the point to help > deflate > your oversided ego. > > Your smarter than all the developers on every App server and my comment is > stupid. Everyone that uses any J2EE technologies is a moron and your the > smartest person ever to exist. Ok, fine. Whatever you want. Your a winner. > Just keep the politics off the discussion thread. > > I've never contributed to jakarta or any open source forum but thought I > would check it out and see what it's all about. With attitudes like this > I'm > beginning to think this might be a mistake. I run into enough egomaniacs > in > my job without dealing with these assholes when I'm just trying to help > out > the community for free. Why should I take shit when I'm not getting paid? > This is exactly why politics should be off the forum. It's discouraging > for > people that want to get involved. > > > >From: "Aaron Smuts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'Jakarta General List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: EJB = bad = MS.net > >Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2002 18:26:37 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowing my qualifications here is my response to Aaron's post whom I > >have > > > summarized with this one line from him; > > > "No matter what you try to do with EJB, I can provide a simpler, > >faster, > > > more scalable, and cheaper solution." > > > > > > >I was obviously overstating the matter. I guess I had too much wine. > >Ok. Let's be fair, 98% of what most people need from an appserver can be > >done in other ways. > > > >I think that comment was actually in reference to the specific features > >listed as beneficial about EJB. ? > > > > > Wow, you should start your own company. Your obviously much smarter > >than > > > the > > > 100 or so developers that make Weblogic or the 50 or so that make > >JBoss, > > > or > > > the ? 100 ? or so that make Websphere, etc. > > > >Not arguing with you here. (These discussion just provoke stupid > >comments like that.) > > > >You can make a Java Bean > > > container that can handle > > > > >clustering, > > > >Oh ya, weblogic clustering is so nice. You have to practically take > >down the entire cluster in 6.0 to update. > > > > >fail over, > > > >Got what I need in a load balancer and in JCS. There are some > >transactional failover features in appservers that are nice though. > > > > > caching, > > > >Got it: JCS > > > > > persistence, > > > >Got it: JDBC > > > > > transactional services, > > > >Got what I need in the JDBC. > > > > > security, etc. > > > >Got it: RBAC > > > > >better than all those people? > > > >Most of this can be done fairly simply and most people just don't need > >what the appserver vendors are selling. > > > >If you had said 2 phase commit, then I'd make concessions. > > > > >Wow, > > > your the man. > > > >Thanks. > > > > >If I could create a product by myself better than all those > > > people and create a billion dollar company I would. Seems stupid not > >to? > > > Kind of strange you call 'people' stupid > > > >Just to be clear. I never called anyone stupid. I never used the word. > >That was in the subject line that I replied to. I didn't notice it till > >someone else replied. I would have taken it out. (as I just did.) > > > >and claim you can do better than > > > these teams at creating this monumental amount of complex code > > > >No. I use a good amount of clear code. > > > > yet you > > > don't > > > do it, even though it could bring you great wealth? Ok then, how about > > > open > > > source? > > > >Oh, I am a contributor to a couple of Jakarta projects but have no > >intension of building an appserver. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Aaron > > > > > > > >-- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
