So Tapestry seems to have attracted a healthy following and the attention of such notables as Marc Fleury (Whom I think is a technically proficient and thoroughly decent okay guy...and he likes altoids more than I do):
http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=1165034&forum_id=7644 There is even potential synergy with another Jakarta project ;-): http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?thread_id=1142661&forum_id=7644 Oh and they already use stuff from jakarta-commons (as opposed to apache-commons which is confusing ;-) ) The project is pretty active: http://sourceforge.net/project/stats/index.php?report=months&group_id=4754 There is the inevitable book deal that seems to be all the rage these days: http://tapestry.sourceforge.net/wiki_frame.html Hey I think I know that Christian Hall guy from somewhere ;-): http://tapestry.sourceforge.net/wiki_frame.html I like the code okay, it has Javadoc... There are some methods that probably should be javadoc'd but aren't.... http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/tapestry/Tapestry/framework/src/net/sf/tapestry/AbstractPage.java?rev=1.8&content-type=text/vnd.viewcvs-markup Their website is ugly and doesn't have their docs directly online: tapestry.sourceforge.net Notes: 1. I didn't actually try and run it, i just looked at all the available online information.. (Sorry, don't have time to run it, I'm assuming user testimony is enough) Concerns: Tapestry started out as Primix foundation.. Is Howard still employed by Primix... would he still be working on it if he was no longer? Tapestry appears to have decent documentation... Do we allow that around here? ;-) My biggest concern is they want to start following the "Apache way" after moving here. In my opinion they have enough contributors, etc. I'd like to see them start voting and the such first, then reevaluate once they've been doing it a few months. They might also want to investigate a home at JBoss if Apache doesn't work out. I know those guys are expanding. All in all, as much as I don't really care for PULL methods... This seems to be a healthy community, it seems to be reasonably well in line with Jakarta, and I think it would be a good fit. So for whats its worth +0 from me, and +1 if they start following the voting rules/etc in advance then move here. If they do that I will volunteer to help them out with bringing them into the fold and all, although I'm not a member. -Andy On Sun, 2002-10-20 at 09:35, Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: > I don't have a way to qualify this, but I'm very concerned about growing the > community, and therefore I'm very careful not to be arbitrary. Everything > is a discussion, and I prefer that person X be happy with the ultimate > decision, preferably agreeing with it. > > I've tried to before to spur more organization, but that didn't really get > started. The problem is, developers are too happy, I think. The framework > does mostly what they need, bugs fixes and improvements happen, so there > hasn't been a need to get involved. A move to Jakarta will *force* a few > people (and I know who they are) to step forward, since other wise, by the > rules, nothing will actually happen. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Peter Donald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Jakarta General List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 9:04 PM > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta > > > On Sun, 20 Oct 2002 02:06, Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote: > > "Benevolent dictatorship". Probably should have expanded on this. > Without > > a formal comittee or voting system, I've reserved the right to ultimately > > decide what goes into the framework and what doesn't. > > Start changing now. I don't know how long it will be before you come to > Apache > but there is no harm and considerable benefit in moving to this model IMHO. > It would also enhance your chances of making it into Apache. > > -- > Cheers, > > Peter Donald > -------------------------------------------------- > Logic: The art of being wrong with confidence... > -------------------------------------------------- > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:general-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:general-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:general-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:general-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:general-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:general-help@;jakarta.apache.org>
