> > I'm sorry to have insulted you. I was only trying to help. Based on > > what you said, the observations I'd had from where I work and what I'd > > observed. If my observations were incorrect I apologize. > > Hey, your observations may be right and I appreciate your help! ;-) > > My strong reaction was probably due more to the tone of your email. > Saying to someone: "you have failed to provide ..." is not a very nice > thing to say. Saying, "maybe you should try to work more on the > marketing side" is softer! :-). My turn to apologize if my reaction was > too strong ;-) >
Ahh... word connotation. I need a Jon page.. . I suck at finding the right way of saying things in email. I'm told I'm abrasive in email, but not in person. The funny thing is I say the same things... They just come off differently. Maybe its my facial expressions or tone of voice... (though my wife always misinterprets my facial expressions) > Ok I want to be positive and try to see if there's anything I can do to > improve the overall Cactus community. You say Cactus might be missing > some marketing muscles. I would like to believe that. From the > information in my email do you still think there's more the Cactus team > could do? > Release more often, announce the releases. While you may have had articles published, I've never actually seen one. (I've seen them on Maven, Tomcat, Velocity, Struts to no end, Cocoon, Struts). I found the best approach to this is to spam magazines and complain that they haven't covered it. Find and article on say JUnit and write the author "but you haven't written on web app testing with cactus!" Some people do the JUG tour. > You said the persons in your team were pondering about using Cactus. > That means they already know about it. So marketing is good! Maybe > documentation need to be improved? > No not on my team.. . Just people I know at work ;-) If I had a need for cactus at the moment the documentation doesn't look too bad. > FYI, we have actually started working on the Cactus front-end (Maven > plugin, Eclipse plugin, standalone testing application, Ant tasks, etc) > which should make it easier to use (this was one weak-point noted by the > users - the entry barrier). > Ahh. i actually use Centipede and haven't figured out what eclipse wants from me (I want CVS + compilation...it gives me either or). The biggest turnoff for me was this: " This will work with Internet Explorer as the XSL transformation is performed on the client side (i.e by the browser). I'm not sure about other browsers. " IE doesn't work well under Linux. Plus I like mozilla better and even use it when I have to use Winblows. -Andy > Thanks > -Vincent > > > > > -Andy > > > > -- > > http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business > > http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in > > Java > > http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project > > structure > > a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex > > Projects! > > The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to > > vote. > > -Ambassador Kosh > > > > > > -- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > <mailto:general-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> > > For additional commands, e-mail: > <mailto:general-help@;jakarta.apache.org> > > -- http://www.superlinksoftware.com - software solutions for business http://jakarta.apache.org/poi - Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document in Java http://krysalis.sourceforge.net/centipede - the best build/project structure a guy/gal could have! - Make Ant simple on complex Projects! The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote. -Ambassador Kosh -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:general-unsubscribe@;jakarta.apache.org> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:general-help@;jakarta.apache.org>
