On Mon, 07 Jul 2003 08:14:06 -0400 (Subject: Re: [i18n] Internationalization subproject sponsor?) Robert Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am surprised there isn't more interest in a common internationalization > framework within Jakarta. But then I have been assuming that there > are non-English-speaking "members" in Jakarta, not just "committers" > and other users of the code. When the proposal was first submitted > to the list, there seemed to be some initial interest - I even got > some suggestions for improving the code and incorporated those into > later revisions. But if there isn't much interest at this point, I > fear it will be difficult to get it into Jakarta at a later time. 1. There are many many non-English-speaking "members" as well as "committers" in jakarta. However, unfortunately non-Latin1-speaking "members" are a few. This means that they can not easily understand many hardships which people in multi-byte area *must* undergo. 2. Given that some of the members/committers in jakarta got aware the importance of the internationalization, I think they pretty do not know how to deal with it properly. (In short, they can not *test* easily in their environment) 3. In jakarta/apache, there are some projects using so called "Resource Bundle". (AFAIK: jakarta-jetspeed, maven and jakarta-struts, etc.) 4. Personally, I think it might be a nice idea to create i18n subproject and make *soft link* to each subprojects' directory/ resource bundles. In this way, we do not have to download all the subprojects' (e.g. apache-maven) modules and can contribute to the translation materials. (just download the i18n module and contribute to it) 5. The i18n subproject described above can also attract many contributors who are interested in the internationalization issues in general. The effort of the i18n proj can influence all the Apache related products. Maybe it can be a nice *community* which focuses on the internationalization issues related to the opensource communities. It would be very sad if the *know-hows*/*knowledge database* for the i18n/l10n issue will not be gathered in one appropriate place in apache/jakarta. The i18n subproject might be able to become a *symbol* of the ASF's i18n, and this gives a good *SIGN* that ASF is welcoming all sorts of the users' communities all over the world. I think it would be very nice if any committers in a specific subproject can easily ask to the community concerning with i18n issue, "I am lacking the know-hows on the i18n/l10n issue. Are there anyone who can support me/us here??". 6. Personally, I do not think the i18n issue is not only related to java but also to all the *language*s. So, I suggested, "you do not have to adhere to jakarta, IMHO". 6'. I think apache-httpd project had a great success in the i18n/l10n issue, so their knowledge might help you a lot. > BTW, thanks for sending the test "properties" file in Japanese. I > did incorporate that into the code, but just on my side so far. Okay. if you had any troubles with this, please let me know. Sincerely, -- Tetsuya ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
