Thank you Roger – most interesting. For those with a taste for it, Samuel R. Delany’s 1965 novel *Babel-17*works through the Whorf-Sapir hypothesis. (Delany later claimed he wrote it before encountering the hypothesis, which he supposed must have been ‘in the air’ at the time.)
On 12 October 2010 15:36, Roger Hui <[email protected]> wrote: > There is another presentation of the same idea in > http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/29/magazine/29language-t.htm?pagewanted=all > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Stephen Taylor <[email protected]> > Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 5:32 > Subject: Re: [Jgeneral] Looking for links - online or off - between J and > natural language (example: English). > To: General forum <[email protected]> > > > Linda > > > > I'd be interested to publish in *Vector* anything you write on > > this topic. > > > > Don't know if this is helpful, but a while back we blogged about > > a professor > > at Stanford working close to this field > > > > http://vectoreditor.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-language-shapes- > > thought.html > > Cheers > > Stephen > > > > > > > > On 3 October 2010 10:14, linda falkoff > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thanks so much Roger and Brian - I plan to click on the links, > > and hope to > > > come back re the work on "software linguistics" Adin and I > > were doing in > > > the > > > 80's and happily interacting with Ken and APL as well - I note > > online that > > > sl field has taken off (in a good sense) and there are likely > > connections.> > > > Also it may be interesting to take pics of the "Claim > > Structure Grammars" I > > > built for my computing / info. sci advisor Ted Glaser in > > the 70's, > > > because > > > it would be very nice if it relates generally to J. I > > want to carry forth > > > with the "family" projects. Will be pleased to partner in studies, > > > conversations ... > > > > > > You give a lot of clues .. very nice. > > > > > > LDMF. > > > *Respectful Interfaces* . When googling use quotes! > > > > > > On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:36 AM, Roger Hui > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Welcome to the J Forums, Linda. > > > > > > > > As far as Ken's work, there isn't much explicitly written > > > > on the subject. I know of the following items: > > > > > > > > - http://keiapl.org/anec/#algebra > > > > from "Algebra: An Algorithmic Treatment", 1972. > > > > > > > > - He modeled the organization of the dictionary part > > > > of "J Introduction and Dictionary" > > > > http://www.jsoftware.com/help/dictionary/contents.htm > > > > and before that "A Dictionary of APL", > > > > http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=36983.36984 > > > > on the organization of an English dictionary, > > > > in particular the American Heritage Dictionary of the > > > > English Language. (Earlier versions were called > > > > "A Dictionary of the APL Language" and "The ISI > > > > [Iverson Software Inc.] Dictionary of J") > > > > > > > > - Of course, he uses noun/verb/adverb etc. > > > > where more traditionally in this context the > > > > terms array/function/operator are used. > > > > This has been very helpful as for example most > > > > every one gets "adverb" (run quickly, eat quickly, ...; > > > > run quickly, run slowly, run directly, ...) whereas > > > > "operator" tends to be confusing and mysterious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: linda falkoff <[email protected]> > > > > Date: Friday, October 1, 2010 7:43 > > > > Subject: [Jgeneral] Looking for links - online or off - > > between J and > > > > natural language (example: English). > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Cc: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > Best wishes up front - > > > > > > > > > > and can you please share some links you like on the topic > > of J > > > > > and natural > > > > > language, English or otherwise? > > > > > Sorry, post is redundant with email subject line. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks, LDMF, *Respectful Interfaces*. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For information about J forums see http://www.jsoftware.com/forums.htm
