On Wednesday 19 February 2003 09:53 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
> --- Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wednesday 19 February 2003 07:39 pm, Net Llama! wrote:
> > > --- Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >

> > Some of the demonstrators, but not all, genuinely believe in peace;
> > others are hard core pacifists who, for example, would have left 
> > Great Britain to rot rather than coming to their aid in WWII (an 
> > example, the poet organizer of the anti-war poetry that is currently being 
collected.)
>
> references please.
>

The gentleman in question is Sam Hammil, a well known poet.  See the reference 
to POETS AGAINST THE WAR in the following article:

http://www.oxfam.org.hk/english/news/focus/iraq/poem.shtml

Mr. Hammil was recently interviewed at length on one of the radio talk 
programs (I can't remember which, because I listen to several each day on my 
long commute to and from work) about his views.  He stated among other things 
that he is a devout Zen Bhuddist (nothing wrong with that), totally opposed 
to any war (nothing wrong with that either, although I disagree), and that he 
would have strongly opposed America entering WWII (nothing wrong with that, 
if you like the idea of standing idly by while Hitler takes over the world). 

Of the samples of anti-war poetry read on the air Mr. Hammil's seemed to be 
somewhat less poetic and more bitter than the others, from my standpoint.

>
> No, i accept that others are allowed to have opinions that differ from
> my own, assuming that their opinons have a basis in fact.  

I find that slogans in any demonstration frequently have little basis in fact 
but every basis in emotion.

Yes, I'm in the minority who believes that capitalism is a positive word, and 
socialism is a negative word.  I don't belittle countries like Sweden that 
have chosen socialism, but I personally don't want to see any more socialism 
in American government than we already have.

-- 
Collins Richey - Denver Area
Athlon-XP gentoo 1.4_rc2 kde 3.1
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