On Thu, 20 Feb 2003 22:26:18 -0700 Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 February 2003 09:53 pm, Net Llama! wrote: > > --- Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wednesday 19 February 2003 07:39 pm, Net Llama! wrote: > > > > --- Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Some of the demonstrators, but not all, genuinely believe in peace; > > > others are hard core pacifists who, for example, would have left > > > Great Britain to rot rather than coming to their aid in WWII (an > > > example, the poet organizer of the anti-war poetry that is currently > > > being > collected.) > > > > references please. > > > > The gentleman in question is Sam Hammil, a well known poet. See the > reference to POETS AGAINST THE WAR in the following article: > > http://www.oxfam.org.hk/english/news/focus/iraq/poem.shtml > > Mr. Hammil was recently interviewed at length on one of the radio talk > programs (I can't remember which, because I listen to several each day on > my long commute to and from work) about his views. He stated among other > things that he is a devout Zen Bhuddist (nothing wrong with that), totally > opposed to any war (nothing wrong with that either, although I disagree), > and that he would have strongly opposed America entering WWII (nothing > wrong with that, if you like the idea of standing idly by while Hitler > takes over the world). > > Of the samples of anti-war poetry read on the air Mr. Hammil's seemed to > be somewhat less poetic and more bitter than the others, from my > standpoint. > > > > > No, i accept that others are allowed to have opinions that differ from > > my own, assuming that their opinons have a basis in fact. > > I find that slogans in any demonstration frequently have little basis in > fact but every basis in emotion. > > Yes, I'm in the minority who believes that capitalism is a positive word, > and socialism is a negative word. I don't belittle countries like Sweden > that have chosen socialism, but I personally don't want to see any more > socialism in American government than we already have. Oddly, I see Sweden as getting less socialistic, and the US more so. I may go so far as to say that at this time they are more similar than you may think. In Sweden, taxes are lowering and government programs are decreasing. A big part is the European Union. But it is also a feeling that there has been too much government waste. The stockholm subway was recently privatized. The train system must pay for itself. Far far fewer government subsidies for them. I read in this morning's Stockholm newspaper that 'free schools' - which are more paid for by individuals than by the government and are called free because they are free from direct control by the government, are so prevalent that some government schools may be closed. The world is just so dynamic. Concepts and ideas about other places need continual adjustment. I wish the news services in the US would report more on the rest of the world so people there would see this. I do think people are interested. If they get a chance. We all have the same human curiosity about each other. Being an American by birth, I feel I can say that I object to it when people say Americans don't care about the rest of the world. -- +����������������������������+�������������������������������+ � Roger Oberholtzer � E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] � � OPQ Systems AB � WWW: http://www.opq.se/ � � Erik Dahlbergsgatan 41-43 � Phone: Int + 46 8 314223 � � 115 34 Stockholm � Mobile: Int + 46 733 621657 � � Sweden � Fax: Int + 46 8 302602 � +����������������������������+�������������������������������+ _______________________________________________ General mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/general
