On Sunday 30 March 2003 12:03, Andrew Mathews wrote: > Net Llama! wrote: > > --- Andrew Mathews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > <snip> > > >>As opposed to? I think patriotism is a way of life, not affiliated > >>with > >>some political party, as bad as some would like to impose that > >>association. > > > > sure, being patriotic is great. however patriotism does not equate to > > blindly believing & following the president, or any president just > > because he's the president. patriotism is pride in your nation, and > > wanting others to envy your nation because it is, in your opinion, the > > best. > > > > > Last I remember, it's not about winning a popularity contest. I really > don't give a rat's patootie what somebody else thinks of us, because if > you even start, you'll never win. You can't please all of the people, > all of the time. It's about the difference between right and wrong. > Hell, half the world was against us in W.W.II, but that didn't cause > anyone to say "Whoa, others don't like us doing this so we'll stop". > There's a tendency to overcomplicate things and try to put so many > meanings and hidden agendas into it to serve whatever purpose the > argument is for, and it's not necessarily that way. It's not about > religion, oil, food, or any other ulterior purpose. It's about deposing > a so called leader who defies the imposed penalties of the entire global > community, (who it seems is no more than a paper tiger now) and > commits genocide amongst his own people to maintain his position, while > preparing to destroy his neighbors who certainly haven't precipitated > the situation. The guy's an asshole and needs to go, plain and simple.
Last I remember we didn't say much when Iraq was gassing the Iranian army to the tune of 1/2 million Iranian casualties. We didn't say much when they used gas on the Kurds back when St Ronald and St George Sr. were running the country and Iraq was our buddy helping to defeat the evil Iranians. Now thirteen years later we are at war with an Iraq that is even weaker than they were when they were our buddies or rolled into Kuwait. First little George claimed that we need to invade them because they had backed the WTC terrorists. That turned out to be not true. Then we had to go to war to ,destroy their weapons of mass destruction. Problem: the CIA admits that the documents proving that Iraq tried to buy nuclear material from Nigeria were forgeries and that Bush had been told that before he went on tv claiming that the government had the proof that Iraq was trying to buy nuclear material. Weapons then quietly became gas and bugs. Problem: UN inspectors could only only find 12 empty warheads which in all probably left over from the war with Iran. At this point Britain jumped in with their "proof?;" It took the British press less than 24hrs to find that the so-called evidence had been copied from the Internet without regard to the qualifications of the posters. One of the more important papers turned out to have been written by a college student who has never been to the middle east and had been written as a class term paper. Once again the quite shift. Now it was war to make Iraq comply with the UN resolution. Total non-compliance turned out to be 100 rockets. Iraq had already burned through the casings of 16 of them when the draft-dodger in-chief sent the military to the middle east. But, now it was a war to free the Iraqis from their evil dictator. Only trouble with that was that, with the exception of the Shiite Moslems allied with Iran and the Kurds, the rest of the Iraqis have taking to welcoming their liberators by sniping at our supply column with 303 British Enfields left over from WWI. In short, the government has lied about the need of this war since day one. Those who support a war and government based on lies and deliberate deception are not patriots but jingos who hold the dishonor of one family above the honor of their country. They have placed us upon history's roll of dishonor right next to the Italian invasion of Ethiopia in 1934. As far my own patriotism, I served with honor as an enlisted man in the U.S. military for 22yrs spanning the Viet Nam era.I do not equate love of country and her honor with some beer-gutted draft-dodging jingo with his foot on the running board of his flag be decked SUV shouting Commie at anyone who disagrees with the philosophy of the school yard bully. Lee _______________________________________________ General mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linux-sxs.org/mailman/listinfo/general
