Le 30/03/2003 22:03, ��Andrew Mathews�� <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a
�crit�:

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>> sure, being patriotic is great.  however patriotism does not equate to
>> blindly believing & following the president, or any president just
>> because he's the president.  patriotism is pride in your nation, and
>> wanting others to envy your nation because it is, in your opinion, the
>> best.  
>> 
>> right now, its rather difficult to be proud of a country that just about
>> all the other nations of the world, and their citizens either distrust
>> or outright hate.
>> 
>> =====
> <snip>
> 
> Last I remember, it's not about winning a popularity contest.


*** The way things are, I don't think the US will be invited to participate
in such a contest for some time, let alone "win".


> I really  don't  give a rat's patootie what somebody else thinks of us,
because if  you even start, you'll never win.


*** That's what a lot of people have problems with today.


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> all of the time. It's about the difference between right and wrong.


*** And just who gave the american nation the right to decide?


> Hell, half the world was against us in W.W.II, but that didn't cause
> anyone to say "Whoa, others don't like us doing this so we'll stop".


*** Let's not take that street. Compairing things makes you look bad by
definition as it shows a lack of arguments for the present issue.


> There's a tendency to overcomplicate things and try to put so many
> meanings and hidden agendas into it to serve whatever purpose the
> argument is for, and it's not necessarily that way. It's not about
> religion, oil, food, or any other ulterior purpose.


*** I understand it has to stay simple, afterall Joe-six-pack has to be able
to understand why the hell Iraqis, american, english... are dying in a
buttfuck nowhere...


> It's about deposing
> a so called leader who defies the imposed penalties of the entire global
> community, (who it seems is no more than a paper tiger now) and
> commits genocide amongst his own people to maintain his position, while
> preparing to destroy his neighbors who certainly haven't precipitated
> the situation.


*** Crap.


> The guy's an asshole and needs to go, plain and simple.


*** In that conext: Can you tell me who should bomb your country in to
prehistory for having asshole's in the White House?

--
Cheers,
Zoran.

"Home is where you hang your @"

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