On Sun, 2005-09-11 at 19:27, Jerry McBride wrote:
> On Monday 12 September 2005 01:53 am, Net Llama! wrote:
> > On 09/11/2005 06:01 PM, Michael Hipp wrote:
> > > Net Llama! wrote:
> > >> On 09/11/2005 04:01 PM, Michael Hipp wrote:
> > >>> ...and that part of the US that provides us with the most crime, the
> > >>> drug addicts, endless social experiments that are known to fail every
> > >>> (tiresome) time they are tried, oppressive laws by the binder full and
> > >>> let's not forget, the very most base forms of immorality. Note that
> > >>> your "pros" are all centered toward materialistic concerns. Telling.
> > >>
> > >> Since when is employment, goods & services, education a materialistic &
> > >> immoral concern?
> > >
> > > You used those things as evidence of how superior the coastal elites are.
> > > To claim that such is an indicator of superiority is a textbook
> > > definition of materialism. And it is indeed immoral to believe such
> > > temporal material goods have any lasting value or are any indication of
> > > the stature of the person bearing them.
> >
> > Again, education & high productivity are not a definition of
> > materialism.  Please point our where it is.
> >
> > >>> *I* do however care what those areas of the US think of us red staters
> > >>> if for no other reason than they are humans with feelings too and it
> > >>> hurts to see them make one bad lift-ruining decision after another.
> > >>> Especially for anyone who has read the Bible and therefore can't help
> > >>> but know where it must lead. (Not to mention they are only happy if
> > >>> they can manage to take the rest of the country into the toilet with
> > >>> them.)
> > >>
> > >> Bible thumping only frightens the bible thumpers.
> > >
> > > Where is an attempt to frighten? I was explaining why *we* do care for
> > > the coastal liberals. Because we know where their folly is taking them.
> >
> > In your own narrow view of the world, perhaps.  Not everyone needs a
> > religious crutch to live their lives.
> >
> > >>> This pubescent quote is priceless: "dubya-loving,
> > >>> enlightened-creationism, red-staters". Just call them names. No need
> > >>> to be concerned with actual facts or truths.
> > >>
> > >> Right.  And Bruce's original comment that started this thread was purely
> > >> fact based.  Pot, kettle, black.
> > >
> > > The article that Bruce pasted-in made the assertion that the dependency
> > > that
> >
> > I'm not referring to the article (and it wasn't even an article, it was
> > just a series of statements, from someone that I believe was his wife?).
> >   I'm referring to his remark where he claimed that everyone in the
> > north east US was irrational.
> >
> > > is a natural and proven consequence of the welfare state greatly
> > > exacerbated the problems in NOLA. That assertion is very much consistent
> > > with the facts and observation of human behavior as well as the specifics
> > > of what happened on the ground there. Have you said anything to counter
> > > those facts? No, you just
> >
> > There is nothing to counter.  The "welfare state" didn't cause new
> > orleans to get flooded.
> >
> 
> But it had a lot to do with the way the residence just sat and waited for 
> someone to do something for them. It's part of their culture now... 
> 
> 
> > > dismissed it as "propaganda". More liberal tactics, just hurl insult,
> > > call names, and dismiss it with hand waving as if just saying it makes it
> > > so.
> > >
> > > Lonni, you're smart. Very smart. If you know something to refute that,
> > > then enlighten us. So far you haven't done it. As has none of the liberal
> > > leftists who want us uneducated hicks to just believe them when they tell
> > > us this is all dubya's fault.
> >
> > Bush has had 5 years, and all he has to show are wars & natural
> > disasters, both of which were predicted in advance if only someone had
> > paid attention.  Oh and an incredible amount of national division.
> 
> Division caused by who? Cripes, the democrates in my work STILL refuse to 
> believe that they lost the election! You lost.... period.

Only 'cause Daddy bought the majority of the Supreme Court.  We had the
most votes, overal. (First time).
Bob

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