On 09/11/2005 06:01 PM, Michael Hipp wrote:
Net Llama! wrote:
On 09/11/2005 04:01 PM, Michael Hipp wrote:


...and that part of the US that provides us with the most crime, the drug addicts, endless social experiments that are known to fail every (tiresome) time they are tried, oppressive laws by the binder full and let's not forget, the very most base forms of immorality. Note that your "pros" are all centered toward materialistic concerns. Telling.


Since when is employment, goods & services, education a materialistic & immoral concern?

You used those things as evidence of how superior the coastal elites are. To claim that such is an indicator of superiority is a textbook definition of materialism. And it is indeed immoral to believe such temporal material goods have any lasting value or are any indication of the stature of the person bearing them.

Again, education & high productivity are not a definition of materialism. Please point our where it is.

*I* do however care what those areas of the US think of us red staters if for no other reason than they are humans with feelings too and it hurts to see them make one bad lift-ruining decision after another. Especially for anyone who has read the Bible and therefore can't help but know where it must lead. (Not to mention they are only happy if they can manage to take the rest of the country into the toilet with them.)

Bible thumping only frightens the bible thumpers.

Where is an attempt to frighten? I was explaining why *we* do care for the coastal liberals. Because we know where their folly is taking them.

In your own narrow view of the world, perhaps. Not everyone needs a religious crutch to live their lives.

This pubescent quote is priceless: "dubya-loving, enlightened-creationism, red-staters". Just call them names. No need to be concerned with actual facts or truths.

Right. And Bruce's original comment that started this thread was purely fact based. Pot, kettle, black.

The article that Bruce pasted-in made the assertion that the dependency that

I'm not referring to the article (and it wasn't even an article, it was just a series of statements, from someone that I believe was his wife?). I'm referring to his remark where he claimed that everyone in the north east US was irrational.

is a natural and proven consequence of the welfare state greatly exacerbated the problems in NOLA. That assertion is very much consistent with the facts and observation of human behavior as well as the specifics of what happened on the ground there. Have you said anything to counter those facts? No, you just

There is nothing to counter. The "welfare state" didn't cause new orleans to get flooded.

dismissed it as "propaganda". More liberal tactics, just hurl insult, call names, and dismiss it with hand waving as if just saying it makes it so.

Lonni, you're smart. Very smart. If you know something to refute that, then enlighten us. So far you haven't done it. As has none of the liberal leftists who want us uneducated hicks to just believe them when they tell us this is all dubya's fault.

Bush has had 5 years, and all he has to show are wars & natural disasters, both of which were predicted in advance if only someone had paid attention. Oh and an incredible amount of national division.

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