On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 00:38, Matthew Tedder wrote: > On Thursday 13 February 2003 00:17, Doug Gorley wrote: > > On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 23:25, Matthew Tedder wrote: > > > I have downloaded and attempted stage5 downloaded from ibiblio and one > > > other mirror--only to find that one of them doens't provide /bin/sh, > > > clear, and other commands.... and the other did include those but lacked > > > the "make" command. So I used the stage1, which was included on the ISO > > > download and it eventually lacked soem critical parts.. > > > > I'd never heard of it before, but I thought I'd look on the off chance > > that there'd been some cataclysmic change in the way Gentoo is > > distributed. Where exactly did you find a stage5 file? > > These two sources: > > >http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/1.4_rc2/x86/i586/stage3-i586-1.4_rc2.tbz2 > > >ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/releases/1.4_rc2/x86/i586/stages/stage3-i586-1.4_rc2.tbz2 >
Those are stage3 tarballs, not stage5. > > > > > > WTF is going on? IS THERE A COMPLETE WORKING VERSION OF ANY OF THE > > > STAGES FOR INSTALLING GENTOO 1.4 RC2!?@$!$ > > > > I've used the athlon-xp stage3 file, as well as the x86 stage1 file. > > They both work just fine. > > > > > I have spend NUMEROUS hours over the last few weeks--including about six > > > hours today only to be disappointed. > > > > Did you follow the installation instructions on the Gentoo site? They > > really work quite well. And, if you get stuck on the installation > > process, you can post a question here. This list is amazingly good at > > helping people with specific problems. With vague, inflammatory > > complaints... not so good. > > This is pretty specific.. Bash not included, make, not included... What's > up? And why does the ISO not include anything but stage1 and no GRP package > as specified in the instructions? The instructions were great and worked > well for the RC1 version, except that Grub was not working for ReiserFS and > the kernel kept rebooting.. > Specific, but the point is it's not correct. As shown in another reply to your last message, those files are clearly there. It's usually a good bet that when you find a system as widely used as Gentoo, and you *think* you've a problem like "bash not included", think again -- %99.99 of the time, it's you, not the software. > > > > > And why on earth is this being called a Release Candidate (or does RC2 > > > mean something else?). > > > > This is indeed Release Candidate 2. That means it's the second > > candidate to be the final release of Gentoo 1.4. > > With problems as brazen as this not having been worked out--it should be > considered alpha. Perhaps these are just QC issues and somewhere someone > actually does have properly build stage1, 2, and 3 packages for i586. > As I said, it's not the software. bash is there. make is there. They work. > > > > > Please don't make switch to Lycoris for the product we're working on > > > here.. > > > > > > Is there some ISO image that already has more than the stage1--at least > > > the GRP stuff mentioned in the installation instructions? I was > > > surprised to find stage packages with DIFFERENT contents in the tbz2 > > > files with the SAME names. > > > > That would be all the ISOs, I think. Really, what ISO did you > > download? Grab the one for your architecture, it should have a stage1, > > stage2 and stage3 tarball on the CD. Or grab any CD, and wget the > > tarball at install time. Very simple. > > I grabbed it twice... My architecture is the VIA Eden ESP, so I grabbed it > for i586. I first considered raw x86 earlier but there was nothing but > stage1 available. > > The ISO only contains a stage1 package, so I downloaded the stage3. > > > > > > This seems VERY unorganized.. > > > > I found Gentoo to be exceptionally well organized - the documentation > > was easy to find, the system tools (portage, rc scripts, etc.) all work > > very well, and the mailing list does a great job of filling in the > > blanks. Exactly what more is it you're looking for? > > Originally, I was impressed by the documentation and portage--but I have yet > to see a working installation. I cannot even compile the kernel without > these basic tools missing the packages.. Well, hopefully you can get it worked out, and you'll probably learn something in the process! -- Doug Gorley | [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP Key ID: 0xA221559B Fingerprint: D707 DB92 E64B 69DA B8C7 2F65 C5A9 5415 A221 559B Interested in public-key cryptography? http://www.gnupg.org/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
