This will sound agresive but... RTFM!

Looks like you did a wrong procedure in the Gentoo's install.

In http://gentoo.org you can find a very huge documentation about
install,stages,GRP, etc... 

Well, good luck. 

On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 19:04, Matthew Tedder wrote:
> On Thursday 13 February 2003 07:15, Doug Gorley wrote:
> > On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 00:38, Matthew Tedder wrote:
> > > On Thursday 13 February 2003 00:17, Doug Gorley wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 23:25, Matthew Tedder wrote:
> > > > > I have downloaded and attempted stage5 downloaded from ibiblio and
> > > > > one other mirror--only to find that one of them doens't provide
> > > > > /bin/sh, clear, and other commands.... and the other did include
> > > > > those but lacked the "make" command.  So I used the stage1, which was
> > > > > included on the ISO download and it eventually lacked soem critical
> > > > > parts..
> > > >
> > > > I'd never heard of it before, but I thought I'd look on the off chance
> > > > that there'd been some cataclysmic change in the way Gentoo is
> > > > distributed.  Where exactly did you find a stage5 file?
> > >
> > > These two sources:
> > >
> > > http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/releases/1.4_rc2/x8
> > >6/i586/stage3-i586-1.4_rc2.tbz2
> > >
> > > ftp://ftp.gtlib.cc.gatech.edu/pub/gentoo/releases/1.4_rc2/x86/i586/stages
> > >/stage3-i586-1.4_rc2.tbz2
> >
> > Those are stage3 tarballs, not stage5.
> 
> Yes...yes...  for some reason the number 5 keeps popping up when I mean to 
> type 3.
> 
> >
> > > > > WTF is going on?  IS THERE A COMPLETE WORKING VERSION OF ANY OF THE
> > > > > STAGES FOR INSTALLING GENTOO 1.4 RC2!?@$!$
> > > >
> > > > I've used the athlon-xp stage3 file, as well as the x86 stage1 file.
> > > > They both work just fine.
> > > >
> > > > > I have spend NUMEROUS hours over the last few weeks--including about
> > > > > six hours today only to be disappointed.
> > > >
> > > > Did you follow the installation instructions on the Gentoo site?  They
> > > > really work quite well.  And, if you get stuck on the installation
> > > > process, you can post a question here.  This list is amazingly good at
> > > > helping people with specific problems.  With vague, inflammatory
> > > > complaints... not so good.
> > >
> > > This is pretty specific..  Bash not included, make, not included... 
> > > What's up?  And why does the ISO not include anything but stage1 and no
> > > GRP package as specified in the instructions?  The instructions were
> > > great and worked well for the RC1 version, except that Grub was not
> > > working for ReiserFS and the kernel kept rebooting..
> >
> > Specific, but the point is it's not correct.  As shown in another reply
> > to your last message, those files are clearly there.  It's usually a
> > good bet that when you find a system as widely used as Gentoo, and you
> 
> Widely used, but these are early release candidates and they are split up into 
> a variety of different branches..  How well tested, therefore, is each 
> particular combination?  Even though Gentoo is widely used...  Linux is 
> widely used with mass peer review yet we find constant new bugs and broken 
> apps being shipped out with various distrobutions.  The development-pace is 
> the reason.  Yes, it gets fixed fast--but new problems constantly arise 
> because the software is constantly added onto.
> 
> > *think* you've a problem like "bash not included", think again -- %99.99
> > of the time, it's you, not the software.
> 
> After extracting these tar balls, it is not located in ANY of the /bin or 
> /sbin directories anywhere in the system.  If they are in there, then why do 
> they not extract with everything else?  Obviously they are definitely not 
> there.  What's odd is the fact that different things were missing from each 
> package downloaded from each different source of the same named tar ball.
> 
> >
> > > > > And why on earth is this being called a Release Candidate (or does
> > > > > RC2 mean something else?).
> > > >
> > > > This is indeed Release Candidate 2.  That means it's the second
> > > > candidate to be the final release of Gentoo 1.4.
> > >
> > > With problems as brazen as this not having been worked out--it should be
> > > considered alpha.  Perhaps these are just QC issues and somewhere someone
> > > actually does have properly build stage1, 2, and 3 packages for i586.
> >
> > As I said, it's not the software.  bash is there.  make is there.  They
> > work.
> 
> No... it really truelly isn't.  This is not a difficult thing to determine..  
> It's flat not there.  I've been working with UNIX systems as a programmer and 
> part-time administrator for the last seven years.  Somehow these particular 
> packages from these particular mirrors are not complete.  It looks to me as 
> errors on the part of the person putting together the tar balls...and it got 
> copied to the mirrors prematurely at a couple of different stages.
> 
> I downloaded another ISO over last night hoping that this mirror's version of 
> i586 would include all of the stages and the GRP stuff.  I can only cross my 
> fingers.  
> 
> >
> > > > > Please don't make switch to Lycoris for the product we're working on
> > > > > here..
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there some ISO image that already has more than the stage1--at
> > > > > least the GRP stuff mentioned in the installation instructions?  I
> > > > > was surprised to find stage packages with DIFFERENT contents in the
> > > > > tbz2 files with the SAME names.
> > > >
> > > > That would be all the ISOs, I think.  Really, what ISO did you
> > > > download?  Grab the one for your architecture, it should have a stage1,
> > > > stage2 and stage3 tarball on the CD.  Or grab any CD, and wget the
> > > > tarball at install time.  Very simple.
> > >
> > > I grabbed it twice...  My architecture is the VIA Eden ESP, so I grabbed
> > > it for i586.  I first considered raw x86 earlier but there was nothing
> > > but stage1 available.
> > >
> > > The ISO only contains a stage1 package, so I downloaded the stage3.
> > >
> > > > > This seems VERY unorganized..
> > > >
> > > > I found Gentoo to be exceptionally well organized - the documentation
> > > > was easy to find, the system tools (portage, rc scripts, etc.) all work
> > > > very well, and the mailing list does a great job of filling in the
> > > > blanks.  Exactly what more is it you're looking for?
> > >
> > > Originally, I was impressed by the documentation and portage--but I have
> > > yet to see a working installation.  I cannot even compile the kernel
> > > without these basic tools missing the packages..
> >
> > Well, hopefully you can get it worked out, and you'll probably learn
> > something in the process!


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