On Tue, 2004-02-10 at 13:32, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
> Well, then linux has great news for you. Install samba, and read the
> samba documentation project. It's about 500 pages of _really_ helpful
> text. It will take some time, but sfter you sift through it, you will be
> wanting to dump windows asap
> 

Hi,
   First, I'm replying to Jakub's note only because it's at the top of
the list, but my thanks to everyone who answered. I appreciate all of
your answers, whether you are pro or con on the idea of coexisting with
Windows, but in some environments it's what's required.

   OK, so with some help from a guy who works on a related business we
got my Gentoo box talking on the Windows network. I've been able to
mount samba shares from the NT file server, and I'm printing to the
printer on the network, although I'm just doing it through CUPS and not
using the shared printer on the NT server like I would if I was running
XP Pro. If managed to get Crossover Office installed and have Word and
Excel running off of the file server, although my share is currently
read only so I have to fix that.

   I don't have email yet as I have to decide whether to just use
Outlook under CXOffice or try switching to Evolution. (Which I use at
home and am writing from right now.) The advantage of sticking with
Outlook would be that I save about 4GB of archived email traffic from my
overseas engineering group. Maybe there's an LDAP solution or something
else that will fix this for me and allow me to move everything to
Evolution. I'll probably stick with Outlook in the short term and try to
move to Evolution longer term, unless I find a better answer. Not overly
important right now.

   All in all, very successful for about 2 hours invested. XP gone.

   Now, for a couple of responses:

Norbert: Just because we are small doesn't mean that we just play games.
We have about $40K USD invested in Windows financial software running on
the servers and two ladies that use the Oracle and Sequal (sp?) servers
while sitting at their desks with the client side apps. That stuff all
has to run on Windows NT, so NT isn't going away.

Grendel: Thanks for your help. You've always been great even since the
Redhat days! Actually, the 'reason' for the server is *not* that it's a
file server, as you guessed, but that it's a compute server. I get file
server capabilities for free, right? ;-) 

BACKUPS: Since we have all this finance stuff running on NT we must have
backups. After all, it's Windows. We have a daily backup, 6-week,
tape-based rotational system running Veritas Backup Exec. All the
important data gets backed up, so there's no reason for us to keep *any*
files on our local machines. This way, when a workstation machine goes
down it's only apps that get installed, and with Windows I just run
Ghost every so often to fix a local problem created by one of us
installing software. (We all do it, and we all pay for it!)

Gabiel: I don't mind paying for it at all. Win NT is cheap. We built
this machine based on a Dell Server in early 2001. It's never gone down
once in over 3 years. Applications die, and I do reboot it once a month
or so, but other than that we've only had a RAID drive go bad. Nothing
was lost. People can talk about how cheap Linux is, and it is, but the
right Windows setup doesn't have to cost much from a business
perspective. (And again, Linux won't run this software anyway...)

  So, in closing, thanks for the responses. I look forward to more
discussion, but I think I just brought Linux as a desktop to our office
this afternoon.

Cheers,
Mark




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