On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:06:40 Grant wrote:
> > > As I have previously posted about, my host sent me an email a few days
> > > ago stating that support tickets for 5,000-6,000 of their clients had
> > > been broken into.  I checked my records and found that my root
> > > password had previously been submitted in a support ticket.  I then
> > > decided I needed to reinstall my system.
> > >
> > > I requested that my host allow me access to a second machine for 2-5
> > > days while I switch over to a clean system, after that I would turn
> > > the old system over to them and continue with the new system.
> > >
> > > My request was denied!  I'm blown away by this.  Was I asking too much?
> > >
> > > - Grant
> >
> > You are probably asking more than their terms of service *require* them
> > to provide, especially if they don't believe the leaked information was
> > used for any nefarious activity.
> > However a reasonable webhost who accepts responsibility for its mistakes
> > and values its customers would probably grant such a request as a gesture
> > of goodwill - unless they were worried about opening the floodgates for
> > every customer to request such treatment, a scenario which would likely
> > leave them unable to comply even if they wanted to.
> > As a side note, although I agree with all the comments about 'never been
> > sure' a system is still clean, did you check whether there was actually
> > any root logins to your server not from your IP since the breach? If I
> > was in your situation and could confirm that no root logins occurred (via
> > ssh, ftp, cpanel, whatever else is running) from other ip's I'd probably
> > rest easy just changing my password.
>
> Wouldn't it be trivial for them to edit the logs though?
>

Good point, that comes down to how your server is set up. My server logs get 
sent to a dedicated logging host - primarily to agregate logs from half a 
dozen domains, with the happy side effect of securing logs from webserver 
breaches. My final comment was a presumptive leap based on my own setup and 
is invalidated if your logs are kept on the same host.

- Noven
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