You'll have to question them directly
I suggest that we circulate a response to each - likely the same as
sent to the ipcc
A
On 16 Jun 2011 02:54, <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Interesting list of groups. I will bet $100 that if each group were
to be
> contacted, that we would find they have no knowledge of this ETC
effort. I
> just randomly picked one... "Institute for Social Ecology" and searched
> their website for "Geoengineering". This is what I
>
found....http://www.social-ecology.org/?s=geoengineering&submit.x=10&submit.y=9
<http://www.social-ecology.org/?s=geoengineering&submit.x=10&submit.y=9>
> No Result
>
> So, I tried another...."Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy.
USA"
> and again searched their site for GE. Here is what I found
>
http://www.social-ecology.org/?s=geoengineering&submit.x=10&submit.y=9
<http://www.social-ecology.org/?s=geoengineering&submit.x=10&submit.y=9>
No
> Result
>
> Being and hard headed SOUTHERN fellow, I tried one
more....."International
> Presentation Association of the Sisters of the Presentation, USA"
Here is
> the search result http://www.presentationsisters.org/search-results.php
> AGAIN NO RESULT!!!
>
> Ok, I am upping the bet to $1,000. Any takers?
>
>
>
> On , "Rau, Greg" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> From the letter:
>
>> "The likelihood that geoengineering will provide a safe, lasting,
>> democratic and peaceful solution to the climate crisis is
non-existent."
>
>> [please fill us in on the safer, longer lasting, more democratic, and
>> peaceful solutions, and therefore why further evaluation of GE isn't
>> needed.]
>
>
>
>> "Asking a group of geoengineering scientists if more research
should be
>> done on the topic is like asking a group of hungry bears if they would
>> like honey. Their predictable answer should be viewed with
skepticism. At
>> the same time, independent organizations, which have devoted years of
>> critical research to geoengineering, are not allowed to
participate, even
>> as observers."
>
>> [ glad someone has been able to do years of critical research on GE.
>> Please transparently provide results, as well as evaluations of the
>> better, non-GE solutions]
>
>
>
>> "...we urge the IPCC to ensure that a variety of civil society
voices is
>> heard, understood, and taken into account, particularly from the
global
>> South. This will provide much-needed common sense and a global
>> perspective, as well as a counterpoint to the more prominent and
extreme
>> positions of some Northern scientists engaged in geoengineering
research."
>
>> [didn't realize that there is a north/south divide here. I thought
global
>> warming and ocean acidification were equal opportunity impactors. Any
>> Southerners on the GE list? care to weigh in?]
>
>
>
>> Interesting signatories* of this letter, including the African
>> Biodiversity Network, Africa, international World Rainforest Movement,
>> Cook Islands Climate Action Network (CICAN), Rarotonga, Cook Islands,
>> Island Sustainability Alliance CIS Inc (ISACI) Rarotonga, COOK
ISLANDS,
>> Rainforest Rescue – Rettet den Regenwald, Germany, Sisters of
Charity of
>> Nazareth Congregational Leadership, United States. Certainly we are
all
>> for biodiveristy, rainforests, Pacific islands, charity, etc. Why
run the
>> risk of losing them by not considering all of our options for
preserving
>> them?
>
>
>
>> I've learned that effective political messaging requires 3 things: a
>> victim, a villain, and an opportunity. While HOME et al. certainly
have
>> the first two covered, they offer no alternative opportunities for
saving
>> the world. That's truly dangerous. Let's keep all of our options open.
>
>> -Greg
>
>> *
>
>> African Biodiversity Network, Africa, international
>
>
>
>> ATALC – Amigos de la Tierra America Latina y Caribe, Latin America,
>> international
>
>
>
>> Coordinadora Andina de Organizaciones Indígenas -CAOI, Andean,
>> international
>
>
>
>> ETC group, international
>
>
>
>> Friends of the Earth International
>
>
>
>> Global Forest Coalition, International
>
>
>
>> Global Justice Ecology Project, International
>
>
>
>> GRAIN, International
>
>
>
>> Land is Life, international network of indigenous communities and
>> organizations
>
>
>
>> Missionary Oblates of Mary Immaculate, International
>
>
>
>> International Center for Technology Assessment (ICTA), US /
international
>
>
>
>> OILWATCH Sudamérica, international
>
>
>
>> Pan African Climate Justice Alliance (PACJA), Africa, International
>
>
>
>> RALLT, Red por una América Latina libre de Transgénicos, Latin
America,
>> international
>
>
>
>> Red Latinoamericana contra los Monocultivos de Árboles (RECOMA), Latin
>> America, international
>
>
>
>> Redmanglar Internacional, Guatemala, international
>
>
>
>> Temple of Understanding US / international
>
>
>
>> Third World Network, international
>
>
>
>> Via Campesina, International Peasant Movement, international
>
>
>
>> World Future Council Foundation, international
>
>
>
>> World Rainforest Movement / Mov. Mundial de Bosques, international
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> Aboriginal Legal Rights Movement Inc, Australia
>
>
>
>> Acción Ecológica, Ecuador
>
>
>
>> Acción por la Biodiversidad, Argentina
>
>
>
>> ADEID, Action pour un Développement Équitable, Intégré et Durable,
>> Cameroon
>
>
>
>> African Centre for Biosafety, South Africa
>
>
>
>> Alliance Sud, Switzerland
>
>
>
>> Amigos da Terra, Brazil
>
>
>
>> Amigu di Tera FoE Curaçao, Brazil
>
>
>
>> APUNA, Andhra Pradesh United Nations Association, India
>
>
>
>> Asociación ANDES, Cusco, Perú
>
>
>
>> Bio WILD Foundation, Biodiversity and Wildlife Integration for
Livelihood
>> Development, INDIA
>
>
>
>> Biofuelwatch, UK / US
>
>
>
>> Casifop, México
>
>
>
>> Ceccam, México
>
>
>
>> Cenami, México
>
>
>
>> Censat Agua Viva, Colombia
>
>
>
>> Center for Cultural Interchange and Greenheart, USA
>
>
>
>> Centre for Civil Society Environmental Justice Project, Durban, South
>> Africa
>
>
>
>> Centro Ecológico IPÉ, Brazil
>
>
>
>> Centro Ecologista Renacer, Argentina
>
>
>
>> Centro Fray Julián Garcés de Derechos Humanos y Desarrollo
Comunitario,
>> México
>
>
>
>> CESTA, Amigos de la Tierra El Salvador
>
>
>
>> COECOCEIBA-AT Costa Rica
>
>
>
>> Colectivo COA, México
>
>
>
>> Colectivo Voces Ecológicas COVEC, Panamá
>
>
>
>> Consejo de Ejidos y Comunidades Opositores a la Presa La Parota
(CECOP),
>> México
>
>
>
>> Cook Islands Climate Action Network (CICAN), Rarotonga, Cook Islands
>
>
>
>> Cooperativa por un Ambiente Biodiverso y Sustentable, CAMBIOS, SC de
>> RL,México
>
>
>
>> Corner House, UK
>
>
>
>> Cuarto Menguante Aliento por la conservación AC, México
>
>
>
>> Dewan Adat Papua, New Guinea
>
>
>
>> Dogwood Alliance – Asheville, NC, USA
>
>
>
>> Ecological Society of the Philippines
>
>
>
>> Ecologistas en Acción, Spain
>
>
>
>> Ecomunidades, red ecologista autónoma de la cuenca de México
>
>
>
>> Educación AT Argentina
>
>
>
>> CEIBA AT, Guatemala
>
>
>
>> Ethiopian Society or Consumer Protection, Ethiopia
>
>
>
>> Fair Coop (Fair Trade), Italy
>
>
>
>> Family Farm Defenders, Madison, Wi, USA
>
>
>
>> FASE, Brazil
>
>
>
>> Fondation Sciences Citoyennes, France
>
>
>
>> Frente de Pueblos en Defensa de la Tierra y el Agua, Región Malinche,
>> México
>
>
>
>> Friends of the Earth US
>
>
>
>> Food First, US
>
>
>
>> Fundación Heifer-Ecuador
>
>
>
>> Fundación por el Futuro, Madrid, España
>
>
>
>> Fundación Promotora de Cooperativas – FUNPROCOOP, El Salvador
>
>
>
>> Gaia Foundation, UK
>
>
>
>> GMWatch, UK
>
>
>
>> Greenovation Center, China
>
>
>
>> Grupo SEMILLAS,Colombia
>
>
>
>> Grupo Thunhupha, Bolivia
>
>
>
>> IBON International, Philippines
>
>
>
>> Indian biodiversity forum, India
>
>
>
>> Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy, USA
>
>
>
>> Institute of Science in Society, Mae-Wan Ho, UK
>
>
>
>> Instituto de Estudios Ecologistas del Tercer Mundo, Ecuador.
>
>
>
>> International Presentation Association of the Sisters of the
>> Presentation, USA
>
>
>
>> Institute for Social Ecology, USA
>
>
>
>> ITC, Comité Intertribal, Brazil
>
>
>
>> Island Sustainability Alliance CIS Inc (ISACI) Rarotonga, COOK ISLANDS
>
>
>
>> Movimiento Madre Tierra, Honduras
>
>
>
>> Ka Lahui Hawai'i
>
>
>
>> Kiee Lu'u SSS México
>
>
>
>> L'Union Paysanne, Canada
>
>
>
>> La Asamblea Veracruzana de Iniciativa y Defensa Ambiental (LAVIDA),
México
>
>
>
>> Mangrove Action Project, USA
>
>
>
>> Movimiento de la Juventud Kuna, Panamá
>
>
>
>> Movimiento por la Vida y la Equidad Campesina, El Salvador
>
>
>
>> Na Koa Ikaika KaLahui Hawaii
>
>
>
>> National Indigenous Peoples of Solomons Islands (NIPS), Solomon Islands
>
>
>
>> National Toxics Network Inc. Coordinator, Australia
>
>
>
>> New World Society For Friendship Cooperation And Peace, India
>
>
>
>> Ngati Hine tribe of the Bay Of Islands, New Zealand
>
>
>
>> NusaAlifuru of Maluku (Pacific, considered Indonesian)
>
>
>
>> Observatorio Latinoamericano de Conflictos Ambientales -OLCA, Chile
>
>
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>> OFRANEH, Organizacion Fraternal Negra Hondureña, Honduras
>
>
>
>> Ole Siosiomaga Society Incorporated (OLSSI), SAMOA
>
>
>
>> Organización de Agricultores Biológicos AC, México
>
>
>
>> Philippinenbuero eV im Asienhaus; Germany
>
>
>
>> Proceso de Comunidades Negras de Colombia
>
>
>
>> Rainforest Rescue – Rettet den Regenwald, Germany
>
>
>
>> RAPA NUI PARLIAMENT (Polinesia)
>
>
>
>> Red de Coordinación en Biodiversidad, Costa Rica
>
>
>
>> Rede Brazileira de Pesquisas em Nanotecnologia – RENANOSOMA, Brazil
>
>
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>> REDES AT, Uruguay
>
>
>
>> SAFEAGE, Observatory, Cape Town, South Africa
>
>
>
>> Salva la Selva, Spain
>
>
>
>> Savia, Escuela de Pensamiento Ecologista, Guatemala
>
>
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>> SEARICE, Philippines
>
>
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>> Sisters of Charity of Nazareth Congregational Leadership, United States
>
>
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>> Sunray Harvesters, India
>
>
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>> SWISSAID, Switzerland
>
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>> Seeds Action Network, Germany
>
>
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>> Terra de Direitos, Human Rights Organization- Brazil
>
>
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>> Terra-1530, Moldova
>
>
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>> Texas Drought Project, USA
>
>
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>> The Development Fund, Norway
>
>
>
>> The Enviro Show, Western Massachusetts/USA
>
>
>
>> The Koani Foundation, Lihue, Kauai, Hawaii
>
>
>
>> The Noordhoek Environmental Action Group, Noordhoek, Cape Town, South
>> Africa
>
>
>
>> Un Salto de Vida, AC, El Salto, Jalisco, México
>
>
>
>> US Federation for Middle East Peace (USFMEP), USA
>
>> ________________________________________
>
>> From: [email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
[[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>]
>> On Behalf Of Josh Horton [[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>]
>
>> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 5:08 AM
>
>> To: geoengineering
>
>> Subject: [geo] HOME/ETC Group Targets IPCC
>
>
>
>> Here is the latest salvo from the HOME campaign, this time targeting
>
>> the IPCC expert group on geoengineering meeting in Peru:
>
>
>
>> http://www.handsoffmotherearth.org/2011/06/lettertoipcc/
>
>
>
>> Josh Horton
>
>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>
>> http://geoengineeringpolitics.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
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