On Feb 22, 8:38 am, Ken Caldeira <kcalde...@carnegie.stanford.edu>
wrote:
> On the other hand, if the Romans had discovered fossil fuels and had a
> fossil-fueled industrial revolution, they would have maximized their net
> present value and we would be here two millennia later with rising seas,
> acidified oceans, melting ice caps, diminished biodiversity, etc, finding
> little solace in the fact that they followed the path their economists told
> them was economically optimal.

Perhaps. But we would have built on that wealth and be even wealthier
than we are now, and so better able to deal with the altered climate,
oceans, and biosphere that they caused (assuming they didn't cause a
complete collapse of the ecosystem). Maybe we would have already
perfected fusion by now.

One of the economists in Bjorn Lomberg's Copenhagen Consensus group
pointed out that someone in our future, say 100 years from now and
several times wealthier than we are, will be puzzled if he looks back
on us and wonders why we decided not to pursue our own best economic
interest on his behalf.

I grew up in a house with a coal furnace. Should my parents -- who
were not even middle class then and struggled to get by -- not have
burned coal, which was the cheapest option for them where I lived
(western PA), because it would alter the climate and oceans? I don't
know what else they would have done for heat. Eventually my father did
better and we bought an oil furnace and then a nicer house, and then
an even nicer house (but still middle class) with gas heat and A/C. I
have to admit Lomborg's economist makes a lot of sense -- today I
would have been puzzled if my parents had not heated with coal, but
had taken out a loan to buy an oil furnace. (They couldn't even afford
a proper bathroom, but had a toilet in a closet and a shower in the
basement.) And now today we have all kinds of technologies to employ
on the energy/climate problem that they did not have, and on living
overall -- we can build seawalls if we have to. The future will have
even cheaper options.

David
St Helens, OR
http://www.davidappell.com

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