Much less about misunderstanding at all about the issue of saturation, a
criticism of Arrhenius that has been addressed many, many times and kicked
out of science as an issue by Manabe and others in the 1960s.

Mike


On 5/31/13 1:33 PM, "David Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote:

> According to the University of Waterloo News:  "The peer reviewed paper
> published this week not only provides fundamental understanding of the ozone
> hole and global climate change but has superior predictive capabilities
> compared with the conventional sunlight driven ozone depleting and CO2 warming
> models".   This UW article, "Global Warming caused by CFCs, not carbon
> dioxide' is here 
> <http://uwaterloo.ca/news/news/global-warming-caused-cfcs-not-carbon-dioxide-s
> tudy-says> .  The article contains a picture of a proud Dr. Lu.
> 
> A version of Dr. Lu's paper is on arxiv, i.e. here
> <http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1210/1210.6844.pdf> .   Quoting from that
> paper:  "it was shown [Lu cites previous papers of his own to substantiate
> this] that there has been absolute saturation, i.e. no GHG effect associated
> with the increasing concentrations of non-halogen gases, since the 1950s".
> 
> Because no matter how much the concentration of  trace gases in the atmosphere
> other than halocarbons increases in the coming decades there will be no
> warming of the planet as a result, and because the concentration of
> halocarbons in the atmosphere is declining, Dr. Lu makes this superior
> prediction:
> 
> 
>  
> <http://uwaterloo.ca/news/sites/ca.news/files/styles/body-500px-wide/public/up
> loads/images/20130528%20-%20CFCs%20Climate%20Change1.png>
> 
> The dean of the faculty of science at the University of Waterloo buys this.
> According to UW's Waterloo News, that dean, Terry McMahon, said this: "This
> study underlines the importance of understanding the basic science underlying
> ozone depletion and global climate change".
> 
> Indeed.    
> 
> Incidentally, Dr. Lu appears to have no interest in, and does not account for,
> the rising heat content of the global ocean, in this paper.
> 
> 
> 
> On Thursday, May 30, 2013 9:25:18 AM UTC-7, andrewjlockley wrote:
>> Poster's note : if this is real, it will create quite a fuss. Some humble pie
>> will be eaten

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