> If I emit CO2 with the intent of changing climate versus the intent of 
> driving to work, does that change anything relevant to compensation or 
> attribution issues?
Forgive the long post, but it's actually a very complex question. Also, I'm 
wearing my U.S. lawyer's hat (but this is a bread-and-butter law school 
question, so maybe that's OK.)
Think of motorboats on a lake. Accept for the sake of argument that a boat's 
engine leaks a certain, well-known amount of oil per mile traveled. One of the 
social purposes of the lake is to allow recreation and enjoyment, including 
boating, and so the release of oil incident to this socially encouraged 
activity will probably be regulated indirectly, by (say) engine maintenence 
requirements, limits on boating permits, a push to improve engine sealing 
technology, payments to facilitate cleanup, etc. (We will hope for the sake of 
the lake that its regulators do a much better job of this than human society 
has done with GHGs.)
Now, if I took a cupful of oil down to the lake and dumped it in (perhaps 
because I think that it will be beneficial for the lake's microbiome), a legal 
regime might well treat that differently--even if I had a license to boat on 
the lake which would, in effect, release that same amount of oil over a similar 
period. True, most regimes would not try to look into your heart of hearts--if 
you hate boating, but you're doing it, gritting your teeth, just to put oil in 
the lake, you won't be regulated differently--but emission without the primary, 
encouraged activity is not automatically the same thing.
So a society might well say that the side effects of permitted, beneficial, 
protected, or necessary activities (and many carbon-emitting behaviors, for 
better or worse, can be included on this continuum) should be regulated 
differently than deliberate release. I think this is why the 
maybe-don't-stop-burning-bunker-fuels-on-the-high-seas argument from a few 
years ago (preserving sulfate release incident to an ordinary economic 
activity) hasn't been nearly as controversial as proposed deliberate release of 
sulfates. Again, not necessarily unreasonable. Incident side effects are 
amenable to collateral regulation (and self-regulation) in ways that deliberate 
activity may not be.
Some digressions:
I think I'm right to claim that, practically speaking, SRM would evolve 
individual releases that were much larger on a per-event or per-actor basis 
than ordinary incident release of sulfates, in addition to being different in 
character (height, location, etc.) This would create further legal distinctions.
For another perspective, take the trolley problem (which I see that Andrew has 
just mentioned). Forgive me for repeating my presentation at the Harvard Summer 
School last year, but a legal system could reasonably punish a bystander who 
diverted a train, killing one person but saving five. Why? Among other reasons, 
the legal system might recognize the problems inherent in allowing or 
encouraging bystanders to make on-the-spot calculations with people's lives, 
even if there are potted hypotheticals where diverting the train seems like the 
better outcome. Rule utilitarianism can reach this outcome as well.
Or take carbon credit markets: If I announce that I'm going to emit CO2 for no 
reason, and then I offer to avoid doing so in exchange for carbon credits, 
should I get them? (Of course, the ability to do this de facto without saying 
you're doing it has been a big problem for carbon credit markets.)
To suggest that none of this should matter is (I think) to take a hard-line 
consequentialist position that you might not want to apply in other contexts.
Also, if you like this kind of discussion, you'll love tort law. The inverse is 
probably also true.
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Jamais Cascio <[email protected]> 
wrote:


Level and intentionality of contribution is one component. Provable attribution 
is another, which is also relevant to climate engineering: if Weather Disaster 
X happens six months after the onset of SRM, how can it be proven that WDX was 
(or was not) triggered by SRM?


It may be useful to look at the legal history of lawsuits brought against 
tobacco companies for broadly parallel complexities.
-Jamais Cascio






On Aug 12, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Ken Caldeira <[email protected]> 
wrote:


How and why do the challenges of compensation for solar geoengineering damage 
fundamentally differ  from the challenges associated with compensation for 
damages associated greenhouse gas or tropospheric aerosol emissions that are 
byproducts of industrial activity?




The main differences that I see is that inadvertent climate change likely 
involves more actors (i.e., solar geoengineering will probably be limited to 
state actors) and inadvertent climate change is caused knowingly but not 
intentionally.




Does the issue of compensation fundamentally differ depending on whether the 
climate change was caused intentionally versus merely knowingly?
(By the way, paper is behind a paywall that Stanford libraries does not tunnel 
through, so I am operating solely on the basis of the text below.)



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Carnegie Institution for Science Dept of Global Ecology
260 Panama Street, Stanford, CA 94305 USA




+1 650 704 7212 [email protected]



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Assistant:  Dawn Ross <[email protected]>



On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Andrew Lockley <[email protected]> 
wrote:




Ethics, Policy & Environment

Volume 17, Issue 2, 2014



Response to Svoboda and Irvine



Full access

DOI:10.1080/21550085.2014.926080 Jesse Reynolds

Published online: 08 Aug 2014



In this issue, Svoboda and Irvine (Svoboda & Irvine, 20146. Svoboda,

T., & Irvine, P. (2014). Ethical and technical challenges in

compensating for harm due to solar radiation management

geoengineering. Ethics, Policy and Environment, 17(2), 157-174.

[Taylor & Francis Online]

View all references) offer the most in-depth consideration thus far of

possible compensation for harm from solar radiation management (SRM)

geoengineering. This topic is indeed treacherous terrain, pulling

together multiple complex debates, ethical and otherwise. Their

description of the technical challenges to determining damages and

causation in particular are illuminating. The reader cannot help,

though, but be left with the sense that both SRM and compensation are

futile efforts, bound to do more harm than good.

Before proceeding, throughout any consideration of geoengineering, one

must always bear in mind that it is under consideration as a possible

complementary response (along with greenhouse gas emissions

reductions--or 'mitigation'--and adaptation) to climate change. Climate

change poses risks to the environment and humans, among whom the

world's poor are the most vulnerable. The Intergovernmental Panel on

Climate Change recently concluded that 'Models consistently suggest

that SRM would generally reduce climate differences compared to a

world with elevated greenhouse gas concentrations and no SRM ...'

(Boucher et al., 20133. Boucher, O., Randall, D., Artaxo, D.,

Bretherton, C., Feingold, G., Forster, P., ... Zhang, X. Y. (2013).

Clouds and aerosols. In T. F.Stocker, D.Qin, G. -K.Plattner, M.Tignor,

S. K.Allen, J.Boschung... P. M. Midgley (Eds.), Climate change 2013: The

physical science basis. Contribution of Working Group I to the Fifth

Assessment Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

(pp. 571-657). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.



View all references, p. 575). Therefore, SRM has the potential to

reduce harm to the environment and humans, particularly to already

disadvantaged groups. However, SRM is imperfect.

The primary problem with S&I's analysis is that they treat the

shortcomings of SRM and of compensation for its potential negative

secondary effects as if they were sui generis. In fact, these cited

shortcomings are found among three existing policy domains, which

happen to intersect at the proposed compensation for SRM's harms. The

first such policy domain is socially organized responses to other

complex problems, and the provision of public goods in particular. In

a key passage, S&I write that 'The potential for SRM deployment to

result in an unequal distribution of harm and benefit among persons

raises a serious ethical challenge. It seems deeply unfair to adopt a

climate change strategy that benefits some at the expense of harming

others. This is especially the case if those harmed bear little or no

responsibility for the problem of anthropogenic climate change' (pp.

160-161). One could replace the phrases 'SRM deployment' and 'a

climate change strategy' (and skip the final specific sentence, for

now) with references to almost any socially organized response to a

complex problem, and the statement would remain valid. Indeed, the

primary function of government is arguably to levy taxes in order to

provide public goods, which are unlikely to be otherwise adequately

provided. These public goods include (but are not limited to) defense

from external threats, police protection to reduce crime, construction

of infrastructure, regulation for safety and environmental protection,

generation of knowledge through research, and standards setting. In

each of these cases, some people benefit more than others, and some

pay more than others. Some may be net losers. Policies in which no one

is a net loser (i.e., Pareto improving) are sometimes possible, but

most often are not or are not pursued. Instead, policies that generate

positive total net benefits are adopted. To compensate net losers,

side payments can be made and/or other issues can be linked. While

these arrangements could be called ethically problematic, they

constitute the very core of public policy. In fact, several of S&I's

ethical concerns--including raising revenue from those opposed to

and/or harmed by a policy, arbitrary rules, and the non-identity

problem--could be posed regarding these public goods' provision. SRM

might be especially complex, in large part because of its global

nature, but that does not make it entirely novel. Other global public

goods are promoted through various international mechanisms (Barrett,

20071. Barrett, S. (2007). Why cooperate? The incentive to supply

global public goods. Oxford: Oxford University Press.



View all references).

The second policy domain posing similar ethical problems is

compensation, particularly in complex situations. Even in a case as

simple as accident liability with a single injurer and a single

victim, compensation for non-economic and irreparable damages is

unclear, and compensation clearly does not grant license for an

injurer to harm the victim. In a more complex example, such as the

requested compensation by those born with birth defects due to their

mothers' use of thalidomide during pregnancy, is it very uncertain who

should pay and how much compensation should be provided.

The third existing policy domain is climate change. In the key passage

cited above, 'SRM deployment' could be replaced with 'mitigation,'

'adaptation,' and/or 'compensation for climate change damages' and the

statement would remain valid. Any climate policy will 'result in an

unequal distribution of harm and benefit among persons,' and under all

feasible policies, those who 'bear little or no responsibility for the

problem of anthropogenic climate change' will experience some harm.

Specifically, aggressive mitigation would be expensive and, though it

offers some co-benefits, it would hinder economic development,

including in poor countries.1

1 Developing countries account for the majority of current greenhouse

gases emissions and the large majority of projected future emissions.

Fossil fuel combustion remains essential to economic development.

Aggressive mitigation would reduce fossil fuel combustion, hindering

economic development in poor countries.View all notes

The cause of the 'ethical uncertainty' is not SRM but climate change

and greenhouse gas emissions, whose ethics is discussed thoroughly in

the literature. Because of this, no responses to climate change will

be impervious to accusations of being unjust. However, S&I's implicit

ethical divorce of SRM from climate change has the effect of laying

the ethical challenges from climate change at the feet of SRM.

An additional problematic aspect of S&I is that, to some degree, they

stack the deck against SRM. Regarding its benefits, they fail to

emphasize that SRM appears to hold the potential to greatly reduce

climate change risks to the environment and people, particularly to

the world's poor. Regarding SRM's costs, they cite four ways in which

some might be harmed, each of which is likely to be less severe than

they imply. First, SRM would compensate for temperate and

precipitation changes unevenly. Yet almost all modeling of SRM's

probable effects are not optimized but instead use a determined SRM

intensity or one that would return global average temperature to a

preindustrial value. Citing them as indicating certain likely harms

would require that significantly suboptimal SRM policies be adopted.

The one model that does balance temperature and precipitation across

regions of the globe found that population-weighted Pareto optimal,

globally uniform SRM could compensate for 93% of temperature changes

and 56% of precipitation changes (Moreno-Cruz, Ricke, & Keith, 20124.

Moreno-Cruz, J. B., Ricke, K. L., & Keith, D. W. (2012). A simple

model to account for regional inequalities in the effectiveness of

solar radiation management. Climatic Change, 110(3), 649-668.

[CrossRef], [Web of Science (R)]

View all references, p. 660). Second, S&I point to ocean

acidification, but this is not caused by SRM but instead by elevated

atmospheric carbon dioxide. It is simply unaddressed by SRM. Third,

they note possible damage to stratospheric ozone. However, this would

be caused by only one proposed SRM technique (stratospheric aerosol

injection) using one proposed material (sulfate aerosols); other

methods and materials are possible. Furthermore, recent research

indicates that this impact would be small and the harmful consequences

(increased ultraviolet radiation) would be almost entirely offset by

the screening of incoming light by the aerosols (Pitari et al., 20145.

Pitari, G., Aquila, V., Kravitz, B., Robock, A., Watanabe, S., Cionni,

I., ... Tilmes, S. (2014). Stratospheric ozone response to sulfate

geoengineering: Results from the Geoengineering Model Intercomparison

Project (GeoMIP). Journal of Geophysical Research: Atmospheres,

119(5), 2629-2653.

[CrossRef], [Web of Science (R)]

View all references). Fourth, if SRM were to suddenly stop, then the

subsequent rapid climate change would be very harmful. But it is not

only SRM which poses risks if not implemented properly. For example,

society could intend optimal mitigation and adaptation yet fail to

implement them, resulting in dangerous climate change. In fact,

contemporary society maintains numerous complex operations whose

cessation would result in harm. For example, the well being of almost

all people relies upon continued global trade powered by fossil fuels,

yet we generally do not worry about a sudden cessation of trade and

fossil fuel extraction. Lastly, even if SRM were to stop, the benefits

might still outweigh the costs (Bickel & Agrawal, 20132. Bickel, J.

E., & Agrawal, S. (2013). Reexamining the economics of aerosol

geoengineering. Climatic Change, 119(3-4), 993-1006.

[CrossRef], [Web of Science (R)]

View all references). Nevertheless, the authors emphasize that SRM

'could result in substantial harm' (p. 160). This is true in that SRM

would pose risks, but S&I emphasize only the misses while downplaying

the hits.

Both SRM and the compensation for its negative secondary effects are

ethically complex. Yet such 'ethical uncertainty' generally neither

raises questions of ethical permissibility and nor induces paralysis

among policy makers in other domains such as the provision of public

goods, compensation, and mitigation and adaptation in response to

climate change. SRM is indeed complex and challenging but S&I fail to

indicate why its case should be fundamentally different from these

others. A more pragmatic approach, which asks what policies and

avenues of research would be most likely to offer the greatest

benefits, as opposed to one which seeks only what is problematic, may

be more productive.



Notes



1 Developing countries account for the majority of current greenhouse

gases emissions and the large majority of projected future emissions.

Fossil fuel combustion remains essential to economic development.

Aggressive mitigation would reduce fossil fuel combustion, hindering

economic development in poor countries.



References



1. Barrett, S. (2007). Why cooperate? The incentive to supply global

public goods. Oxford: Oxford University Press.

2. Bickel, J. E., & Agrawal, S. (2013). Reexamining the economics of

aerosol geoengineering. Climatic Change, 119(3-4), 993-1006.

[CrossRef], [Web of Science (R)]

3. Boucher, O., Randall, D., Artaxo, D., Bretherton, C., Feingold, G.,

Forster, P., ... Zhang, X. Y. (2013). Clouds and aerosols. In T.

F.Stocker, D.Qin, G. -K.Plattner, M.Tignor, S. K.Allen, J.Boschung... P.

M. Midgley (Eds.), Climate change 2013: The physical science basis.

Contribution of Working Group I to the Fifth Assessment Report of the

Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (pp. 571-657). Cambridge:

Cambridge University Press.

4. Moreno-Cruz, J. B., Ricke, K. L., & Keith, D. W. (2012). A simple

model to account for regional inequalities in the effectiveness of

solar radiation management. Climatic Change, 110(3), 649-668.

[CrossRef], [Web of Science (R)]

5. Pitari, G., Aquila, V., Kravitz, B., Robock, A., Watanabe, S.,

Cionni, I., ... Tilmes, S. (2014). Stratospheric ozone response to

sulfate geoengineering: Results from the Geoengineering Model

Intercomparison Project (GeoMIP). Journal of Geophysical Research:

Atmospheres, 119(5), 2629-2653. [CrossRef], [Web of Science (R)]

6. Svoboda, T., & Irvine, P. (2014). Ethical and technical challenges

in compensating for harm due to solar radiation management

geoengineering. Ethics, Policy and Environment, 17(2), 157-174.

[Taylor & Francis Online]



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