> I don't see much of a problem with hosting pending docs. 

Okay.  You mean as a separate project or as part of the User/Developer Manuals? 
 (Hoping for the former...)

Thanks,
Mike Pumphrey
OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org


Justin Deoliveira wrote:
> 
>>
>>> won't be built and hosted live,
>>
>> -1 I need me as well as others to se what I am doing. Pending, while
>> still pending, should be visibile. I hoping to see feedback from users
>> (and clients) more than from other members of the committer list. Or
>> are we writing docs for ourselves?
>>
>>> they won't be linked to, and people are way less likely to get
>>> confused by looking at them.
> 
> I don't see much of a problem with hosting pending docs. Simply by being 
> marked as pending it gets the message to users the the docs are 
> incomplete. It also serves as a motivation to the doc writers to put the 
> work into getting the docs up to quality, the equivalent of having 
> community module maintainers put in the work to get a module supported.
>>>
>>> A la:
>>>
>>> User Manual (user/)
>>> Developer Manual (developer/)
>>> Documentation Guide (docguide/)
>>> Pending Documentation (pending/)
>>>
>>
>> +1, with the observation above.
>>
>> Ciao,
>> Simone.
>>
>>> Please let me know if I'm confused about what's being discussed here.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Mike Pumphrey
>>> OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
>>>
>>>
>>> Justin Deoliveira wrote:
>>>> Simone Giannecchini wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Justin 
>>>>> Deoliveira<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>> I don't think that this way of producing docs would work at least 
>>>>>>> not for us.
>>>>>>> 1> Working with the wiki is a real pain
>>>>>>> 2> We often use more than on computer for our work, hence we need to
>>>>>>> make use of svn
>>>>>>> 3> Documentation time is expensive, we cannot afford writing on the
>>>>>>> wiki and maintaining patches. I don't wish to put our private svn in
>>>>>>> the loop.
>>>>>> Excellent points.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Therefore, simple suggestion, we should think about a scheme 
>>>>>>> where the
>>>>>>> docs get committed to svn right away and then moved into
>>>>>>> "production-ready" documentation once a formal review has been 
>>>>>>> made (I
>>>>>>> would add between N days).
>>>>>>> This would make everyone happy I guess.
>>>>>> Well branching would be the obvious answer with our current system.
>>>>>> Although doing a full branch for working on docs is a bit of 
>>>>>> overkill.
>>>>> I agree, overkill...
>>>>>
>>>>>> Another alternative could be to have a "pending" space. This could be
>>>>>> more of a "scratch pad" type place where wiki type style writing can
>>>>>> take place, at the same time having the docs integrated. Although
>>>>>> pending docs would not be considered part of the finished product and
>>>>>> stripped out of the doc artifacts when they are built.
>>>>> This is exactly what I have in mind. Write the doc then ask for review
>>>>> when you are ready.
>>>> Cool. So I think the simplest way to do this would be have a pending
>>>> directory under the top level directory. Underneath this directory we
>>>> put pending docs. The structure could mirror the intended structure
>>>> under the actual doc root. Examples for the recent mosaic tutorial:
>>>>
>>>> user/source/*pending*/tutorials/image_mosaic_plugin
>>>> user/source/*pending*/styling/raster_symbolizer/
>>>>
>>>> However this only works for new content. Patches to the existing docs
>>>> obviously can't fall into this scheme. However those changes seem to be
>>>> more targeted and have less content. So what about just sticking with
>>>> the jira issue/patch/review approach given that we formalize the review
>>>> process?
>>>>
>>>>>> A third answer is dsvc.
>>>>> This is more a proposal than an answer :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I would say that 1 would work for the moment, 3 could be next step.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ciao
>>>>> Simone.
>>>>>>> Ciao,
>>>>>>> Simone.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2c,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Justin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike Pumphrey wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I don't think the idea was abandoned, but I also don't think it 
>>>>>>>>> was adopted as dogma.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there a section I should take a look at and/or go in with my 
>>>>>>>>> vacuum cleaner?  :)  Just let me know...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>> Mike Pumphrey
>>>>>>>>> OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Justin Deoliveira wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Apologies if I missed something while I was away but I thought 
>>>>>>>>>> before we
>>>>>>>>>> more or less agreed that we would adopt Mike as the user guide 
>>>>>>>>>> doc
>>>>>>>>>> maintainer and that non-trivial changes should go through him 
>>>>>>>>>> via patches?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Did we abandon that as a bad idea?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -Justin
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