> 
>> won't be built and hosted live,
> 
> -1 I need me as well as others to se what I am doing. Pending, while
> still pending, should be visibile. I hoping to see feedback from users
> (and clients) more than from other members of the committer list. Or
> are we writing docs for ourselves?
> 
>> they won't be linked to, and people are way less likely to get
>> confused by looking at them.

I don't see much of a problem with hosting pending docs. Simply by being 
marked as pending it gets the message to users the the docs are 
incomplete. It also serves as a motivation to the doc writers to put the 
work into getting the docs up to quality, the equivalent of having 
community module maintainers put in the work to get a module supported.
>>
>> A la:
>>
>> User Manual (user/)
>> Developer Manual (developer/)
>> Documentation Guide (docguide/)
>> Pending Documentation (pending/)
>>
> 
> +1, with the observation above.
> 
> Ciao,
> Simone.
> 
>> Please let me know if I'm confused about what's being discussed here.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mike Pumphrey
>> OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
>>
>>
>> Justin Deoliveira wrote:
>>> Simone Giannecchini wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 5:56 PM, Justin Deoliveira<[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>> I don't think that this way of producing docs would work at least not 
>>>>>> for us.
>>>>>> 1> Working with the wiki is a real pain
>>>>>> 2> We often use more than on computer for our work, hence we need to
>>>>>> make use of svn
>>>>>> 3> Documentation time is expensive, we cannot afford writing on the
>>>>>> wiki and maintaining patches. I don't wish to put our private svn in
>>>>>> the loop.
>>>>> Excellent points.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Therefore, simple suggestion, we should think about a scheme where the
>>>>>> docs get committed to svn right away and then moved into
>>>>>> "production-ready" documentation once a formal review has been made (I
>>>>>> would add between N days).
>>>>>> This would make everyone happy I guess.
>>>>> Well branching would be the obvious answer with our current system.
>>>>> Although doing a full branch for working on docs is a bit of overkill.
>>>> I agree, overkill...
>>>>
>>>>> Another alternative could be to have a "pending" space. This could be
>>>>> more of a "scratch pad" type place where wiki type style writing can
>>>>> take place, at the same time having the docs integrated. Although
>>>>> pending docs would not be considered part of the finished product and
>>>>> stripped out of the doc artifacts when they are built.
>>>> This is exactly what I have in mind. Write the doc then ask for review
>>>> when you are ready.
>>> Cool. So I think the simplest way to do this would be have a pending
>>> directory under the top level directory. Underneath this directory we
>>> put pending docs. The structure could mirror the intended structure
>>> under the actual doc root. Examples for the recent mosaic tutorial:
>>>
>>> user/source/*pending*/tutorials/image_mosaic_plugin
>>> user/source/*pending*/styling/raster_symbolizer/
>>>
>>> However this only works for new content. Patches to the existing docs
>>> obviously can't fall into this scheme. However those changes seem to be
>>> more targeted and have less content. So what about just sticking with
>>> the jira issue/patch/review approach given that we formalize the review
>>> process?
>>>
>>>>> A third answer is dsvc.
>>>> This is more a proposal than an answer :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I would say that 1 would work for the moment, 3 could be next step.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ciao
>>>> Simone.
>>>>>> Ciao,
>>>>>> Simone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2c,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Justin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mike Pumphrey wrote:
>>>>>>>> I don't think the idea was abandoned, but I also don't think it was 
>>>>>>>> adopted as dogma.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is there a section I should take a look at and/or go in with my vacuum 
>>>>>>>> cleaner?  :)  Just let me know...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Mike Pumphrey
>>>>>>>> OpenGeo - http://opengeo.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Justin Deoliveira wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apologies if I missed something while I was away but I thought before 
>>>>>>>>> we
>>>>>>>>> more or less agreed that we would adopt Mike as the user guide doc
>>>>>>>>> maintainer and that non-trivial changes should go through him via 
>>>>>>>>> patches?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Did we abandon that as a bad idea?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Justin
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