Hi everyone.

Yes I was invited and I have not yet responded.  I'm about to move
countries (again) so things are a little crasy.

I will be in australia by the time the meeting happens but I may be
able to join remotly, I would very much like to see other GeoTools
developers there.  (Though with reps for uDig and GeoServer the
majority of GeoTools interest are covered.)

James


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Chris Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Jan 13, 2006 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [Geotools-devel] What the..... and GeoTools? Why is it
not listed? Fwd: [UMN_MAPSERVER-USERS] "Geospatial Foundation" Meeting
To: simone giannecchini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Ian Turton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Paul Ramsey
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "[email protected]"
<[email protected]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]




simone giannecchini wrote:
> Well,
> I read that autodesk is going to pay for the travel expenses therefore
> a problem less to go.
> I think that we need to be in that list no matter who will speak for
> Geotools, if Chris go I am more than fine with that, otherwise as I
> suggested we should ask Martin or Jody or someone else who is an
> active developer and has time to go.
Yeah, this actually does bring up something I've been meaning to mention
for awhile.  New PMC's.  Does anyone know where the current PMC list is?
  There are a couple nominations I'd like to make, and indeed I'm not
sure I still should be a PMC as I don't do active development and don't
really plan to.  Though I plan to stay involved in design discussions
where my historical knowledge is valuable, to still help usher new
developers in, and indeed to help drive sustained support of GeoTools,
by way of GeoServer.  But we should maybe discuss what the role of PMC's
is and should be.

> It is a shame that we are not listed there yet, there are so many
> people around that uses geotools, we need to be represented somehow I
> would like to see GeoTools listed as well as all the other valuable
> projects.
James was definitely invited, GeoTools has been in all the discussions,
indeed there's no way it can't be with uDig and GeoServer in the mix.  I
think the list just reflects those who have accepted.  Unfortunately
Jody is no longer going to be on the continent.  Perhaps we should hurry
up and get Bryce up to PMC (unless he already is and I'm forgetting it
and/or completely forgot), and have James ask autodesk if his invite can
go to Bryce.  Martin would also be good, but he's a bit far away, would
take awhile just to travel there and back.

So rest assured GeoTools is deemed important by the sponsers, I think
James was the top of the list of invitees that I saw.  We just have to
figure out who's going to represent.  Even if it just defaults to me
then I can start making sure the GeoTools name is included.

But regardless, I do think we should have an irc meeting about what
geotools feels about the foundation.  If it's a good thing, and what
such a foundation would have to look like for GeoTools to be a part of
it.  I get the impression it's still up in the air, and if we have
valuable, concrete feedback it will be incorporated.

>
> Sorry if I am repeating myself or being annoying, it is the end of the
> week maybe I am getting tired :-) .
No worries, and it's definitely good to stick up for GeoTools.  I
started making a bit of noise on the foundation list to stand up for the
whole java stack we've got going, not just GeoServer.  Indeed since
GeoServer is already supported by a foundation it probably makes more
sense for some of the other projects, GeoTools in particular, to join
and get the legal protection.

best regards,

Chris

>
> Simone.
>
> On 1/13/06, Chris Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>>James is going to be gone, unfortunately.  I chatted with him a bit.
>>I'm still GeoTools PMC and happy to represent the interests of GeoTools,
>>though it would definitely be nice if James or someone was there, for
>>sure.
>>
>>I'm going out to California before this meeting, however, and hope to
>>pick James's brains on his thoughts, right before he leaves the states.
>>
>>best regards,
>>
>>Chris
>>
>>simone giannecchini wrote:
>>
>>>I think we should ask/propose/force Martin or Jody to be there, or
maybe Bryce.
>>>I am trying to say that we need someone to be there, one of the PMC
>>>presumably, or at least just someone to keep up the good name of
>>>geotools!
>>>
>>>Simone.
>>>
>>>On 1/13/06, Ian Turton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On 1/13/06, Paul Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Simone,
>>>>>WRT one part of your subject, James has been invited directly but has
>>>>>not responded yet.  *I* will be there, and while I would not presume
>>>>>to speak *for* Geotools, I can certainly speak knowledgeably *about*
>>>>>it.  It is possible to add a GeoTools representative other than me,
>>>>>we just need to have one. I am hoping James will yet be able to come.
>>>>
>>>>I've also volunteered if James can't make it.
>>>>
>>>>Ian
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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