Quoting Bryce L Nordgren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Jody wrote on 01/13/2006 12:54:31 PM: > > > Chris Holmes wrote: > > > James was definitely invited, GeoTools has been in all the > > > discussions, indeed there's no way it can't be with uDig and > GeoServer > > > in the mix. I think the list just reflects those who have > accepted. > > > Unfortunately Jody is no longer going to be on the continent. > Perhaps > > > we should hurry up and get Bryce up to PMC (unless he already is > and > > > I'm forgetting it and/or completely forgot), and have James ask > > > autodesk if his invite can go to Bryce. Martin would also be > good, > > > but he's a bit far away, would take awhile just to travel there > and > back. > > Yep Bryce rocks out, gives me hope for the future ;-) > > Bryce has been on the waiting list for "S-490 Advanced Wildland Fire > Behavior Calculations" for two years. Now he's only got to break the > legs > of two people in order to get into the Feb 6-10, 2006 class. Thanks > for > buttering me up, but no chance am I going. I got me some legs to > break. :) Well you would be back in time, this is just a day long thing. It does eat your weekend a bit though.
> > Besides, I might suggest something foolish like forming a top-level > project > of the Apache Software Foundation. Or perhaps the Free Software > Foundation > (GNU). Either would probably have infrastructure and _resources_ > which > could be leveraged. (Because 25 people does not a Foundation make.) > I > hate re-inventing the wheel and would need someone to prove to me > that it's > necessary. Not to mention I'm pathologically opposed to lawyers. Yeah, my thoughts are in line with this. Everyone seems to want to create a foundation these days. I'm definitely going in with a bit of a skeptical mind. I do think many of the geospatial projects looking to be in a foundation would likely have trouble getting in to ASF or FSF - the former because most lack the sufficient diverse community and community based voting (GeoTools I think is the exception here, MapServer I feel is the other - the rest of the OS geo efforts tend to be spearheaded by one organization or individual. Not that it's necessarily a bad thing, but it's a requirement for ASF membership), the latter because few are GPL. Note that this foundation will have resources - the impetus is that Autodesk is open sourcing their map server software, and needs an independant place to put it. They decided to team up with the MapServer community, got the main members to sign NDA's, and launched the MapServer Foundation. Which kind of backfired on them, as the MS community felt left out. This is their second attempt. They've pledged to support the foundation for its first year. This is why many OS geo types are excited, because there is funding. They're paying to fly a number of people (me included) out to this meeting. Though yes, I'm still less than convinced that an entirely new foundation should be formed. And if it is going to be formed, if GeoTools should be a part of it. There's arguments both ways. But Autodesk very much wants this to happen, and there's sufficient os geo community members who do as well, so it will be happening, we just have to figure out if we want to be a part of it. But at the very least it could be nice to have legal protection for our code, since now we just sign it over to the PMC, which is not a real legal entity - if we were to get sued would they come after us as individuals? But if it's time for us to worry about that, perhaps we should look in to joining Apache. Having a geo sub-project of Jakarta could be very nice indeed. > > In any case, I think I had you all fooled. I just need something > geospatial that can ingest/process/serve my WRF output, satellite > images, > fire simulations, plume model output, etc. Come end of Feb. the > coverage > effort had better be wrapped up and I'll start using you like a tool. > Seen > in this light, I probably wouldn't make such a good PMC. > > Don't worry, I'll still spout off to the list about random topics no > one > cares about. Well, the role of the PMC should be to help determine the broad directions of the project, which your role as a user could be very helpful in. One of the main roles I see of the PMC is to maintain the DNA of the project, to see it move forward in a collaborative way, and I think you do a great job at that, even if it's just showing up on the lists with some random topics every once in awhile. It keeps us aware of how people actually want to use GeoTools, instead of us hard core developers just aiming for programming perfection, sometimes at the expense of being useful to real users. Chris > > Bryce > *** Chris Holmes The Open Planning Project thoughts at: http://cholmes.wordpress.com ---------------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: https://webmail.limegroup.com/ ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Splunk Inc. Do you grep through log files for problems? Stop! Download the new AJAX search engine that makes searching your log files as easy as surfing the web. DOWNLOAD SPLUNK! http://ads.osdn.com/?ad_id=7637&alloc_id=16865&op=click _______________________________________________ Geotools-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geotools-devel
