Hi all,

I agree with Andrea ... so far my experience with the OSGeo maven repository 
doesn't
give me too much confidence for such an important move and one trouble per 2.5 
years
is not that bad indeed.

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Nuno Oliveira

On 03/07/2018 02:24 PM, Andrea Aime wrote:
Hi Jody,
I don't think it's a specific event, my colleagues not involved in the full stack (and thus not having maybe an up to date GeoTools checkout)
report repository slowness periodically (e.g., weekly or monthly).
If the artifactory on SAC would get separation from other downloads, that is, its own dedicated bandwidth, it may be an interesting option to look into.

Cheers
Andrea


On Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 3:20 PM, Jody Garnett <jody.garn...@gmail.com <mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    The recent qgis release hit the OSGeo download servers hard, and our maven 
repo was affected.
    After all the fun with repo.boundlessgeo.org <http://repo.boundlessgeo.org> 
we probably know
    a) enough to host artifactory on SAC b) not to try cloud hosting of the 
same.
    On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 11:43 PM Andrea Aime <andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it
    <mailto:andrea.a...@geo-solutions.it>> wrote:

        Hi Torben,
        I'm tentatively -1 on the idea but willing to discuss.

        The proposal you're citing is 2.5 years old and the mailing list 
trouble we have had in
        the past week is
        been the only really serious issue we have had since, as far as I 
remember.

        Migrating the lists to OSGeo will generate a very significant 
disturbance again, but one
        of our own making,
        we'll probably lose all subscribers* and create two places that people 
have to search into
        before posting a request.

        I'd be willing to consider the idea again if we have another SF issue 
in the short term,
        but besides that,
        I believe we can tolerate one trouble in 2.5 years, I doubt OSGeo would 
be able to
        significantly
        outperform that.

        Speaking of which, we keep on having problems with the OSGeo hosted 
maven repository,
        my colleagues report slowness and occasional inability to connect, I 
normally dodge the
        problem
        by building from sources my snapshot and using -nsu in all builds. Now, 
I understand we
        have not
        seen similar issues on the mailing list, but it gives the impression 
SAC is a bit short handed
        (looking at our community, everybody seems to be busy up to their 
eyeballs too, so don't
        think we
        can offer help there).

        Cheers
        Andrea

        * even assuming SF will give us the list of subscribers, which they 
might not due to privacy,
        I don't think we can force subscribe anyone to a new list server hosted 
by a different
        organization... so we'd likely have to start from scratch


        On Tue, Mar 6, 2018 at 10:32 PM, Torben Barsballe 
<tbarsba...@boundlessgeo.com
        <mailto:tbarsba...@boundlessgeo.com>> wrote:

            *

            SourceForge had outages / reduced service during the week of the 
GeoTools 19-beta /
            GeoServer 2.13-beta release.


            This caused:

             *

                Delays on mailing list discussions and announcements (including 
the release
                announcement),

             *

                Loss of all download statistics for the release, so we don't 
know how many people
                are downloading / testing it.


            Once again, this brings up the topic of whether we should consider 
something a bit
            more reliable than sourceforge for hosting mailing lists and 
release artifacts. There
            is a preexisting migration proposal here:
            *https://github.com/geotools/geotools/wiki/SourceForge-exit-strategy
            
<https://github.com/geotools/geotools/wiki/SourceForge-exit-strategy>*

            **

            *One suggestion was to start by migrating the GeoTools project (As 
it is a lower-risk
            migration, given that most people get there artifacts via maven), 
and use that to
            determine feasibility of migrating the GeoServer project.*

            **

            *Any thoughts?*

            **

            *Torben*

            *


            
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