Certainly geocoding is also a different matter, and in that case you should consult the terms of service.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Barry Hunter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:48 PM, Eric Wolf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> Not if the UK national mapping agency is to be beleived. :( >>> >>> They claim that points plotted in GB are derivatives of their data - >> >> Barry, >> >> Can you give me a reference supporting this statement? > > The most recent reference is here: > http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Maps-API/msg/1bb292b5e15d46ff > but its second hand. (or third etc) > > I've also had this said in an email to me from the OS - sadly I cant > find it from a quick scan, will check more later. > > But the 'open'space mentioned is perhaps quite a clear cut message to > this effect. > > Interestingly tho, in the above thread I link to evidence where the OS > have said something different... > http://blog.dixo.net/2006/10/23/geograph-creative-commons-and-ordnance-survey-revisited/ > > > Copyright and IP is like WAR, do what you can get away with... > (a lovely quote - sadly dont remember who to attribute it to) > > >> That would be an >> interesting twist - a big reason for NMAs like the OS is the establish the >> boundaries of a sovereign nation. If what you say is true, the OS claims a >> certain sovereignty over representations of that nation! > > Well in the case of OSGB - the boundaries are pretty simple - its all > coastline :) > > > Another twist... > http://freeourdata.org.uk/ > > The royal mail and its copyright and licencing claims over postcode > data - is why it doesnt feature on many sites - and things like the > Google Maps API. > > > (sorry for the thread drift pushing this UK orientated - but perhaps > helps to explain Brits paranoia over the IP in stuff like the Flickr > shapedata) > > >> >> -Eric >> >>> >>> as Google Maps gets it data from TeleAtlas - which in turn get data >>> from the OS. See also [1] >>> >>> I believe it's something to with not been totally 'severable' from >>> the map data. It may include placenames shown on the map (and >>> associated misspelling) and positions which are actually incorrect in >>> relative to reality. (A map is a cartographic (and artistic) >>> representation of reality - it isn't fact) >>> >>> Taken to the extreme, see 1.4: >>> http://openspace.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/openspace/faq.html >>> >>> But as noted in the other thread this hasn't fully been proved in a >>> court of law - which is going to be about the only way to prove it (at >>> least in the eyes of the law anyway!). >>> >>> Not that I agree with it, but it is part of the FUD spread about such >>> issues [which I am of course perpetuating with this message :( ] >>> >>> Barry >>> >>> >>> [1] http://www.google.com/intl/en_ALL/help/legalnotices_maps.html >>> >>> >>> > >>> > Mano >>> > >>> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 10:49 PM, stephen white <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> > wrote: >>> >> If you position something with Googsoft Earth maps, who owns the co- >>> >> ordinates? >>> >> >>> >> What if you position hundreds of thousands of things? >>> >> >>> >> What if you position for every pixel, leading to your ownership of the >>> >> entire map? (Obviously theoretical, with the number of pixels!) >>> >> >>> >> A counter-possibility is subtle warping of the maps to make them >>> >> incompatible with each other, as a form of data lock-in. >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Geowanking mailing list >>> >> [email protected] >>> >> http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org >>> >> >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Geowanking mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> > http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Barry >>> >>> - www.nearby.org.uk - www.geograph.org.uk - >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Geowanking mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org >> >> >> >> -- >> -=--=---=----=----=---=--=-=--=---=----=---=--=-=- >> Eric B. Wolf 720-209-6818 >> USGS Geographer >> Center of Excellence in GIScience >> PhD Student >> CU-Boulder - Geography >> >> > > > > -- > Barry > > - www.nearby.org.uk - www.geograph.org.uk - > > _______________________________________________ > Geowanking mailing list > [email protected] > http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org > _______________________________________________ Geowanking mailing list [email protected] http://geowanking.org/mailman/listinfo/geowanking_geowanking.org
