Hi all, As we go along figuring out this new world, I think the main thing is that we feel comfortable saying: “No, I’m sorry, I just can’t do this right now.” I know that’s easier for someone older like me to say, and very hard for someone at the start of their career to say, but I do think this is something we all have to learn. I also have trust that everyone will understand that if a request is made, there should be no expectations whatsoever. Just too much chaos on the personal and societal level right now. I know we all (well, most!) hate to say “no,” but we’ve got to do the honest self-assessment now more than ever—anti-cabin fever and personal sanity is our new stock in trade.
There was part of me I couldn’t suppress who said: “Shelter at home?! Great, now I can catch up on my email!” Well, I’m deeper in the time sink hole than I ever expected possible (and trust me, I’ve been deep, deep, deep in that hole). I haven’t even had a chance to keep up with this gep-ed thread, and am just now trying to read through all your great posts. Thanks everyone, Charlie Chester ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ New email address: ches...@gep-guide.net GEP-guide.net <http://gep-guide.net/> • BCI <http://batcon.org/> • Y2Y <http://y2y.net/> • Brandeis <http://www.brandeis.edu/programs/environmental/> • Fletcher <https://sites.tufts.edu/cierp/> > On Mar 19, 2020, at 11:01 AM, Reed M. Kurtz <rmkurt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Briefly, I wish to thank you all for the productive discussion and echo some > of the points and concerns that Susi (and others) have raised. Speaking as > someone who is currently untenured, and (still) on the job market with little > to no certainty about what my future economic prospects holds, I would urge > some caution about expecting too much from our fellow colleagues in providing > any extra "work" beyond what is necessary to meet basic standards. Even > before coronavirus hit, my institution was struggling from a ransomware > cyberattack hit that shut down all our networks, right as we were supposed to > be making the transition to digital remote teaching. So right now, for me and > my students, I feel like the best thing I can expect is that they (we) take > care of ourselves, manage our time and our responsibilities as best we can, > and just make it through the next several weeks, to remain resilient and > self-aware about how to be prepared the next time something like this hits. > > So while I am all for the collaborative, exchange-based model of supplying > and sharing guest lectures and other provisions for teaching work, I would > hope that we are being fair and judicious about the expectations and burdens > we might be imposing if we make such requests upon others (especially > contingent faculty and relatively vulnerable conditions and statuses, like > grad students). We need to be conscientious about how what might provide > opportunities for some may impose additional burdens on others (even if only > by being made to "feel" obligated to contribute, do "more," etc.) Fortunately > me and my family are in a safe and relatively-stable position for the time > being, but I cannot imagine the same applies to so many we are working > alongside - including our students! Hopefully coming together to collaborate > in spaces like this list can help us build the communities we need to survive > and thrive in the face of the coming challenges we will face this century. > > With that said, I would be more than happy to collaborate and help provide > support/appearances on subjects of Climate Justice movements and politics, > Critical/Marxist ecology, and/or Capitalism and Ecological Crisis. > > Take care, > -Reed > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 10:37 AM Peter M Haas <h...@polsci.umass.edu > <mailto:h...@polsci.umass.edu>> wrote: > I’d be happy to follow Stacy’s model. > > <> > From: gep-ed@googlegroups.com <mailto:gep-ed@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:gep-ed@googlegroups.com <mailto:gep-ed@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf > Of Dana R Fisher > Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2020 10:35 AM > To: Stacy VanDeveer <stacy.vandev...@umb.edu <mailto:stacy.vandev...@umb.edu>> > Cc: saeb...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:saeb...@sbcglobal.net>; > promu...@susannemoser.com <mailto:promu...@susannemoser.com>; > rmitc...@uoregon.edu <mailto:rmitc...@uoregon.edu>; GEPED > <gep-ed@googlegroups.com <mailto:gep-ed@googlegroups.com>> > Subject: Re: [gep-ed] just a thought > > > > Nice idea! > > Dana R. Fisher, UMD > > > > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020, 10:32 AM Stacy VanDeveer <stacy.vandev...@umb.edu > <mailto:stacy.vandev...@umb.edu>> wrote: > > Hi all – > > One related thought that has worked well for me (and is a smaller time > commitment than a full guest lecture) is a virtual “meet the author Q&A”. > > I ask someone in our community to skype or Zoom in for only about 20-30 > minutes to take questions from students about a book/article authored by > them, that we are reading and discussing in class. It usually produces great > questions and discussions about things “behind the scenes” or academic work – > things that would never appear in the written version or that I would never > be able to know about the work I’ve assigned. > > Usually I let the students ask all of the questions. But occasionally to mix > it up, I “actors studio” a colleague with questions about why, how, difficult > choices they had to make, and so on. > > Peace, > > --sv > > > > -- > > Stacy D. VanDeveer > > Professor & Graduate Program Director > > Global Governance and Human Security > > McCormack Graduate School of Policy & Global Studies > > www.global.umb.edu <http://www.global.umb.edu/> > > > From: Gep-Ed <gep-ed@googlegroups.com <mailto:gep-ed@googlegroups.com>> on > behalf of syma ebbin <saeb...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:saeb...@sbcglobal.net>> > Reply-To: "saeb...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:saeb...@sbcglobal.net>" > <saeb...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:saeb...@sbcglobal.net>> > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2020 at 9:49 PM > To: Susi <promu...@susannemoser.com <mailto:promu...@susannemoser.com>>, Dana > Fisher <drfis...@umd.edu <mailto:drfis...@umd.edu>> > Cc: "rmitc...@uoregon.edu <mailto:rmitc...@uoregon.edu>" > <rmitc...@uoregon.edu <mailto:rmitc...@uoregon.edu>>, Gep-Ed > <gep-ed@googlegroups.com <mailto:gep-ed@googlegroups.com>> > Subject: Re: [gep-ed] just a thought > > > > [EXTERNAL SENDER] > > this is a great idea! > > syma > > > > >>(((((*>~~~~>>(((((*>~~~~>>(((((*>~~~~ > Syma A. Ebbin, PhD. > > > > > > On Wednesday, March 18, 2020, 7:24:02 AM EDT, Dana R Fisher <drfis...@umd.edu > <mailto:drfis...@umd.edu>> wrote: > > > > > > Susi makes a good point for people who are brought in as experts and not > currently teaching. > > > > Perhaps those of us who are currently teaching could consider putting > together some sort of a cooperative though? For example, I'm currently > teaching my environmental sociology class to advanced undergrads and some > graduate students. I've got online classes coming up when we resume on: > climate change, environmental attitudes and behaviors, post materialism, the > environmental movement, environmental justice, food and waste, and > environmental stewardship. > > > > If anyone on the list wanted to discuss a swap on one of these topics for > something that I am an expert in and frequently give talks about (such as > environmental activism, environmental stewardship, environmental protest, > climate politics and echo chambers), I'd be happy to see if we can make > something work... > > > > I hope everyone else is staying safe in these crazy times! > > > > Dana > > > > --- > > Dana R. Fisher, Ph.D. > > New Book: AMERICAN RESISTANCE > <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Famericanresistancebook.com%2Freviews%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cstacy.vandeveer%40umb.edu%7Cb11199d033664f77bb5808d7cba7c407%7Cb97188711ee94425953c1ace1373eb38%7C0%7C0%7C637201793739136945&sdata=nQSIZ%2FAjIO3v3AIEhMW9e09IKss3OJ8NKTV5SXwH5bs%3D&reserved=0> > > > Director, Program for Society and the Environment > > Professor of Sociology, University of Maryland > > 2112 Parren Mitchell Art-Sociology Building > > 3834 Campus Drive > > College Park, MD 20742 > > drfis...@umd.edu <mailto:drfis...@umd.edu> / phone: 301-405-6469 > > www.drfisher.umd.edu > <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.drfisher.umd.edu%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cstacy.vandeveer%40umb.edu%7Cb11199d033664f77bb5808d7cba7c407%7Cb97188711ee94425953c1ace1373eb38%7C0%7C0%7C637201793739146930&sdata=00icW2PJM%2B5mHXz3yO2xWWjtXNd1%2Boj02E9A5kfhAo0%3D&reserved=0> > > > @Fisher_DanaR > pronouns: She/Her > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 7:03 AM promu...@susannemoser.com > <mailto:promu...@susannemoser.com> <promu...@susannemoser.com > <mailto:promu...@susannemoser.com>> wrote: > > Hi Ron, > > As someone who often is a guest speaker, just remember that your guest > speakers are going through their own little hell of adjusting everything they > do right now. So, check your speaker budgets and consider being generous. The > usual couple hundred bucks doesn't even begin to cover the time a good > speaker spends to prepare a good talk or even just the time they spend coming > to your class. > > > > So, one more layer of attitude and institutional shift here: compensate > people adequately for their time. Do not assume they can afford volunteer > time right now. And consider inviting people who are losing work and income > right now due to COVID19 and offer them a decent stipend to help them out. > > > > That way, you getting help actually helps, not burdens, someone else too. > > > > Best to all and stay sane and healthy, > > Susi > > > > Sent from tiny phone. Forgive typos > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Ronald Mitchell <rmitc...@uoregon.edu <mailto:rmitc...@uoregon.edu>> > > Date: 3/17/20 11:31 PM (GMT-05:00) > > To: GEPED <gep-ed@googlegroups.com <mailto:gep-ed@googlegroups.com>> > > Subject: [gep-ed] just a thought > > > > One other thought on the whole online learning thing – Zoom or other apps for > streaming lectures might be an excellent, low-carbon way to bring in guest > speakers. We could each “trade” guest lectures on our well-known subjects > (the lectures we can give in our sleep), reducing workload of developing > lectures for us while giving our students better content. > > > > I am not offering to coordinate this – just a suggestion in case anyone > thinks it’s a good idea. > > > > Ron > > > > Ronald Mitchell, Professor > > Department of Political Science and Program in Environmental Studies > > University of Oregon, Eugene OR 97403-1284 > > rmitc...@uoregon.edu <mailto:rmitc...@uoregon.edu> > https://rmitchel.uoregon.edu/ > <https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frmitchel.uoregon.edu%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cstacy.vandeveer%40umb.edu%7Cb11199d033664f77bb5808d7cba7c407%7Cb97188711ee94425953c1ace1373eb38%7C0%7C0%7C637201793739146930&sdata=BdBcM0kNjX7nXrxYTz2sD2SIgbU705B9UuZdZFs%2Fu38%3D&reserved=0> > IEA Database Director: https://iea.uoregon.edu/ > 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