On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 09:56:07PM -0800, William Skaggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > I really find it bad that you think those people are ignorant - not
> > everybody can (or even will) read the source to find hidden keyboard
> > shortcuts. That is simply "too much" to ask from anybody. 
> Your points are valid, but you have to realize that there is no such
> thing as a perfect ui solution in a program as complex as GIMP.  If 
> every interface element is always visible, the interface gets so
> complicated as to be unusable.  But if elements are hidden, they are
> hard to use for that very reason.  We can't win.

Well, it should be clear that, except for small changes, the old file
dialog worked better for the largest number of users. Also, the file
save dialog in gimp-2.2 does have a path entry, so I don't think it's
impossible to do it (that's just an example).

Some problems might be caused by misdesigns in gtk+, but not all.

> approach is not to be dogmatic, but to try to find the compromises
> that work best for the largest number of users.  

I don't think the largest number of users specifically need a
stripped-down file dialog.

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