Duh! caught out by this ML reply-to <> sender policy once more. Sorry.

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To: "Sven Neumann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Gimp-developer] Meaning of delay in screenshot plugin
Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2007 10:51:12 +0100

On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 08:38:21 +0100, Sven Neumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> But I don't know all the other desktop
> environments out there and I expected that they more or less all have a
> reasonably well working way of taking screen-shots. After all this is
> where the functionality belongs.

Well there is no clear definition of the responsabilities of a desktop
manager and different project chose different criteria. KDE tries to take
over management of the whole system which I consider inappropriate but is
very popular because it follows the windows thinking most people have been
obliged to learn.

Other window managers, like fvwm, take a very minimalist approach that is
close to a bare windows manager without any concept of desktop.

xfce4 aims for a balance somewhere in the middle, remaining light while
providing basic desktop functions. I guess they think taking screen-shots
is not part of desktop function and if you want that you'll install a tool
like scrot or gimp.

I have even seen comments here suggesting this is a OS function. That only
makes sense in the MS use of the term where the "operating system" can
re-size images , zip them, open an Internet connection and send them to
your grandma.

Clearly any correct use of the term has nothing to do with screen-shots,
graphics or windows at all. It concerns making the hardware _operate_ .

There is a blurring of lines.

I don't see this as being out of place in a tool like gimp. It is after
all a plugin , not part of the core. I don't think a desktop task-bar
plugin is any more "right" than a image editor plugin. Why not both, I'll
use the one that works best ;)

In any case, after a busy day on this topic yesterday, it seems like
everyone is pulling in the same direction , attitudes are a lot more
positive and it looks like the resulting plugin will be a lot more
functional than any other screen capture tool I've seen. That's great news.

It raised my morale considerably to see a wide range of views, ideas and
needs being distilled into an effective and flexible solution so quickly.
This is OSS working the way it should work.

Good day to all.


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