Hello Carol,

On Feb 25, 2006, at 12:18 PM, Carol Spears wrote:
first thing.  in keeping with the spirit of how gimpshop came to be, i
am curious if there are separate online resources for this application.
they opted (probably for really good reasons) to go on their own to
provide software for what is probably a large group of users.

perhaps you could list gimpshop resources here so that the gimp users
can redirect the gimpshop questions to the proper place.

personally, i do not want to interfer with them.  they filled a nitch
and did this without the gimp developers.  i suspect they had really
good reasons to do this. it would be wrong, in my opinion, to start to
help them now -- keeping with the spirit of their project.

From your writing tone, I sense a bit of a rift between Gimp and Gimpshop. I find that odd given that I did not sense it at the Gimpshop site. While there I heard nothing but praise and references back to Gimp.org, but admittedly I didn't set out to find animosity.

From what I have read, Gimpshop is the Gimp with a "skin" to make it a bit more like Photoshop. From using it myself I would have to say that is a fair assessment. No question, Gimpshop is not Photoshop, nor did I expect it to be. I expected it to be the Gimp with a twist, which, as far as I can tell, it is.

For me Gimpshop is a way for me to introduce the Gimp to other volunteers that I work with at a local non-profit. We take in old computers, refurbish them, use them to teach under-served kids in grades 4-8 how to use computers, and then give the computers to the students at the end of the session which last about 8 weeks. The non- profit already has a tremendous amount of material for teaching Photoshop (my guess would be some pared-down version). Plus Photoshop is something the existing volunteers are very familiar with. However, because of technical, legal, and financial constraints, we have decided to migrate to using and teaching Open Source. The Gimp seems to be a natural choices for image manipulation, with the Gimpshop providing a smooth migration path given our existing Photoshop infrastructure. Sure, eventually we'll migrate completely to the Gimp. But for now, it's baby steps.

For me Gimpshop is also a way to learn about image manipulation. I know nothing about Photoshop nor the Gimp nor Gimpshop nor any other image manipulation program. (Actually, I used to know PaintShop pro, but that was over a decade ago, so it may as well be as though I know nothing.) So, I decided to take an on-line course on Photoshop. But instead of using Photoshop I'm using Gimpshop. So far, it has been working pretty well. I can follow along pretty closely, although Gimpshop does do some things a bit differently, which is OK. What's really pleasant is that the forums have a nice mix of neophytes like myself and pros, who help out us neophytes. And us neophytes can come up with some pretty basic questions. But that's OK, too. After all it is a beginning course on Photoshop.

Which brings us to resources. The only resource I know of that is specifically about Gimpshop is the Gimpshop website, which appears to be little more than a blog. There do not appear to be any forums or mailing lists or IRC channels or on-line courses. Just a download link and a blog. But as far as I can tell Gimpshop is not about image manipulation, but rather about putting a Photoshop-like skin on top of Gimp. By putting a Photoshop-like skin on the Gimp, all the resources that one normally uses for Photoshop (books, on-line tutorials, forums, courses, co-workers, etc.) all become available to Gimpshop users. In addition to the Photoshop resources, in only makes sense (at least it did to me) that all of the Gimp resources become available, too, given that underneath Gimpshop runs the Gimp.

As for providing help, that is entirely a personal choice. If you feel that by helping me you are helping them over at Gimpshop and you feel strongly about not helping them over at Gimpshop for whatever reason, then do not help me. That's OK. To me image manipulation is just a hobby. It's fun. It's challenging. It's something new for me to learn. It's something for me to show my family and friends. I enjoy Open Source for the same reasons. It's fun. It's challenging. It's a way to develop a community of users and friends.

In summary, I like Gimpshop and the Gimp and have come to understand that this forum is perhaps not a friendly place to mention Gimpshop. OK. Fair enough. Them's the rules. In the future I will refrain from mentioning Gimpshop and make sure my questions and any answers I give only pertain to the Gimp.

- Robert
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