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From: "Luis Gutierrez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Newsgroups: gmane.science.general.global-change
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 6:59 PM
Subject: [Global Change: 505] Re: Global Impacts of Religious Violence

>> Not to be picky, but the chart you cited was not a trend (change over 
>> time)
>
> Which chart are you specifically referring to?

The chart at the start: "Selected MDG Indicators for 177 Countries"
http://www.pelican-consulting.com/solisustv02n07.html

>> The point is that on this great globe of ours, birth rates *do* vary by
>> religion.  Birth rates are lower in regions with a high prevalence of
>> non-religious people, and higher is regions with a high prevalence of
>> muslims.
>>
> The basic reason is that patriarchal religions perpetuate patriarchal
> families in which the wife must always be willing to have unprotected
> sex at the request of her husband ... and women generally stay at home
> to clean, cook, and get pregnant ... no professional careers ...

Seems plausible.  However, I think religious communities generally enforce 
conformity by the threat of ostracism or social isolation, rather than by 
the threat of violence.  So I can see the effect of religion on fertility 
via patriarchal doctrine, but the connection to religious violence still 
isn't clear.

You also mention several examples of bias and violence against women (e.g. 
sex slavery, female infanticide), but the connection to religious violence 
isn't clear.  Why isn't this thread called "Global impacts of patriarchal 
violence"?

-dl 



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